Tire question

[Built_Well]

Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's

manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on

the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not uni-directional

tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if

it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and

criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do

service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the most

even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And why

would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were

uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The

manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.

Thanks very much in advance :-)

[ron]

as Ray & Jeff state "X" rotation went out years ago.

[T & K kloth]

"ron" <randus3@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:MGZTl.78539$uD3.26371@newsfe20.iad...
> as Ray & Jeff state "X" rotation went out years ago.
>
>

Ron,

Michelin is currently recommending an "X" rotation for their tires on new
cars.

Tim

[HLS]

"T & K kloth" <tkloth@wans.net> wrote in message
news:M4DUl.30870$Ws1.840@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

> I had the same question on my Avalon with Michelin tires. I emailed
> Michelin. They said to (for front wheel drive car) move the front tires
> straight back and to cross the rear tires to the opposite side front.
> They
> also suggested a 6000-8000 mile rotation interval unless you see uneven
> wear.
>
> Tim K

I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than 30K.
These tires don't have a long treadlife.

I just replaced them with Kumho Platinums, assymetric, with 60K treadlife.
So far, they are great.

[bogusmailmark]

Next time I plan on driving 250 mph or re-fitting my Concorde I'll
insist on Michelin. Until then I'll go with something that offers a
far better ROI.

On May 31, 8:55*pm, johngd...@***********m wrote:
> Only Michelin runs on the world's fastest production cars (>250MPH
> Bugatti Veyron) and they came up with an aviation tire solution after
> the Concord accident in Paris that every other company is now using.
> (That Concord was using GoodYear).
>
> Why would anyone want anything less than a Michelin?
>

[HLS]

>
> I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than
> 30K.
> These tires don't have a long treadlife.
>
> I just replaced them with Kumho Platinums, assymetric, with 60K treadlife.
> So far, they are great.
>

Let me be a little more specific. These PARTICULAR Michelins don't seem to
have
a long treadlife.

I have had several sets of Michelins of other types, on other cars, and have
gotten
ca 70K out of them. I am in general a strong supporter of Michelin.

I had looked into buying a Porsche but was put off by the expensive tires
which had to
be changed very frequently ( 15-20K miles or so). They were that way to
give the ride
that many Porsche owners wanted. Same for Avalon, I think.

[HLS]

"T & K kloth" <tkloth@wans.net> wrote in message
news:jABVl.25093$as4.18927@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>> >
>> > I also have an Avalon. Michelins, even with rotation, lasted less than
>> > 30K.
>> > These tires don't have a long treadlife.
>> >
>
> This is surprising. I bought Michelins for my old Camry not too long ago.

####Your old Camry didn't come with this type of tire. (and it IS a fairly
expensive tire...I believe they were $185 each to replace) It is VERY
possible
to buy Michelins that will give you 70-80k for some applications.

> The original Michelins on the car had 85K+ miles on them. The least
> expensive Michelins I could find had a 45K mile tread life. I think
> something else is going on here. Were the tires properly inflated? Did
> they wear evenly?

####The tires were properly inflated, and were rotated. They wore very
evenly and had great traction. I couldn't believe it either, but found them
on
Tire Rack and other users who reviewed tdhem seem to have similar results.


>Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the light?
>Wait, I take that last question back. I don't think that's possible with
>an Avalon.

It would be very possible with this one, but - no - I don't smoke the tires.

[johngdole]

That's right. The Michelin Primacy at Costco is about $125 w/
installation. And these have a 600 tread rating (approx 60K miles)
with a 60K mile warranty. And if people are saying the cheap
Bridgestones last only 15-20K miles then owners shouldn't pay more
than $35-50 having a Bridgestone installed (otherwise these cheap
tires would cost too much).

On Jun 3, 1:07*pm, "T & K kloth" <tkl...@wans.net> wrote:
> This is surprising. *I bought Michelins for my old Camry not too long ago.
> The original Michelins on the car had 85K+ miles on them. *The least
> expensive Michelins I could find had a 45K mile tread life. *I think
> something else is going on here. *Were the tires properly inflated? *Did
> they wear evenly? *Do you like to smoke the tires when pulling away from the
> light? *Wait, I take that last question back. *I don't think that's possible
> with an Avalon.
>
> Tim K
> 1997 Avalon > 2003 Camry > 2008 Avalon

[HLS]

<johngdole@***********m> wrote in message
news:7c014bf0-7c88-4525-a644-3da0f860f540@p4g2000vba.************.com...
That's right. The Michelin Primacy at Costco is about $125 w/
installation. And these have a 600 tread rating (approx 60K miles)
with a 60K mile warranty. And if people are saying the cheap
Bridgestones last only 15-20K miles then owners shouldn't pay more
than $35-50 having a Bridgestone installed (otherwise these cheap
tires would cost too much).

Tire Rack shows my originals should have been Michelin Energy MVX4s.
UTQC is 440. They are now $177 each, plus shipping, mounting, etc.

[HLS]

"Mike" <mikehunt2@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:4a2b0fc8$0$22938$ce5e7886@news-radius.ptd.net...
> Toyota uses Bridgestone tires because it is a Japanese company and the Jap
> only buy from other Japs whenever possible

Neither of my new Toyotas came with Bridgestones. They BOTH came with
Michelins.