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Old 8th January 2008, 08:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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> There are, as Winston Churchill said, three types of lies: lies, damned
> lies, and statistics;


Actually, I believe this quote was originally attributed to Benjamin
Disraeli.

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Old 8th January 2008, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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stomach cancer in japan was due to high content of sodium & nitrates
(they used them alot for conservation and foods), and also maybe to
infection with H.Pylori.
As Japan started to combat this situation, they ended up detecting in
situ cancer -at a very early stage, and allowed them to treat this,
and so 'lowered' their rates.

Smoking + Alcohol (especially combined) are a very potent and
efficient method of getting esophageal cancer.

nicotine.../ smoking --> risk for other types as well, including
bladder cancer, pancreas.

caffeine i've heard/read conflicting on pancreatic cancer.

fats --> colon cancer, and others.

high temperatures --> esophageal cancer risk.

dont know what kind of foods one eats to get ionizing radiation!!!
inside the body .........
 
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Old 9th January 2008, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"DPM" <dm@junk.com> wrote in
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>>Stomach cancer is high in many Asian countries. Japan has a very, very
>>high rate. In my opinion due to a sky high consumption of sodium (and
>>possibly, high consumptions of raw fish and the heavy metals therein).
>>I would think nicotine, ethanol and all that salt would dis-ease
>>anything in Japan with or without tea.

>
> I read years ago that the high stomach cancer rate in Japan was linked
> to their use of talc for polishing rice; apparently talc affects the
> body much like asbestos.
>
> Has this been disproven?


Now I thought that in China, stir-fried food was the culprit in the high
rate of stomach cancer. BTW, I don't think any method of cooking
affects the heavy metals that fish pick up from the polluted oceans,
does it? It's just something that all sea-food eaters (inculding most
fish) have to suffer...

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