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Old 3rd June 2007, 01:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone know a good source for green tea containing high amounts
of EGCG?
 
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Old 4th June 2007, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Usually these numbers are gathered from the analysis of fresh green
leaves.
However, if you´re planning to sell and ship those leaves you´re at
least supposed to kill the enzymes, in order to block any kind of
reaction with the polyphenols. That means you have to give them some
heat treatment, steaming, hot air, panning or whatever, which might
result in a slightly different picture, but a high content of EGCG in
fresh leaves would be a good point to start.
PS: I really enjoy this kind of tea-tech-talk :)

Karsten [still dreaming of a pocket-chromatograph]

On Jun 4, 11:07 am, Nigel <n...@teacraft.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 8:08 am, Desirea <steeping...@> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 3, 1:21 am, tea.exp...@m wrote:

>
> > > Does anyone know a good source for green tea containing high amounts
> > > of EGCG?

>
> > I thought all green teas had the same level of EGCG.

>
> Indeed they do not!
>
> The five types of catechins in tea (gallated flavonols and non
> gallated flavanols collectively) occur at different levels and in
> different ratios depending on genetic background and growing
> environment. Levels of EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate) can be higher
> or lower than some of the other catechins. Typical levels in African
> teas (assamica) are much higher than in China type teas (sinensis)
> when the Africans are manufactured the green tea way. For example
> (see "Diversification of the Tea Product through Value Adding and
> Business Viability - H.E Nyirenda et al, TRFCA News 2006 p20) cultivar
> PC190 had EGCG of 329.3 mmol/g while cultivar PC160 had only 165.9 -
> 24 other cultivars fell between these limits. You can perhaps have too
> much of a good thing though and PC190 while having the highest level
> of flavonols was rejected for release to growers as it produced poor
> quality tea. Nevertheless several of my clients are pursuing
> intrinsically high EGCG as a marketing USP, along with naturally high
> L-theanine levels - these are staggeringly high in Malawi clones -
> PC108 has 3.1 % theanine compared with Japanese culivars at 1.5% under
> sun - and the Japanese teas are recognised for their theanine content
> which by shading can still only reach two thirds of the Malawi level!
>
> Nigel at Teacraft
 
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Old 4th June 2007, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Jun 4, 8:07 am, psyfl...m wrote:
> Usually these numbers are gathered from the analysis of fresh green
> leaves.
> However, if you´re planning to sell and ship those leaves you´re at
> least supposed to kill the enzymes, in order to block any kind of
> reaction with the polyphenols. That means you have to give them some
> heat treatment, steaming, hot air, panning or whatever, which might
> result in a slightly different picture, but a high content of EGCG in
> fresh leaves would be a good point to start.
> PS: I really enjoy this kind of tea-tech-talk :)
>
> Karsten [still dreaming of a pocket-chromatograph]
>
> On Jun 4, 11:07 am, Nigel <n...@teacraft.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 4, 8:08 am, Desirea <steeping...@> wrote:

>
> > > On Jun 3, 1:21 am, tea.exp...@m wrote:

>
> > > > Does anyone know a good source for green tea containing high amounts
> > > > of EGCG?

>
> > > I thought all green teas had the same level of EGCG.

>
> > Indeed they do not!

>
> > The five types of catechins in tea (gallated flavonols and non
> > gallated flavanols collectively) occur at different levels and in
> > different ratios depending on genetic background and growing
> > environment. Levels of EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate) can be higher
> > or lower than some of the other catechins. Typical levels in African
> > teas (assamica) are much higher than in China type teas (sinensis)
> > when the Africans are manufactured the green tea way. For example
> > (see "Diversification of the Tea Product through Value Adding and
> > Business Viability - H.E Nyirenda et al, TRFCA News 2006 p20) cultivar
> > PC190 had EGCG of 329.3 mmol/g while cultivar PC160 had only 165.9 -
> > 24 other cultivars fell between these limits. You can perhaps have too
> > much of a good thing though and PC190 while having the highest level
> > of flavonols was rejected for release to growers as it produced poor
> > quality tea. Nevertheless several of my clients are pursuing
> > intrinsically high EGCG as a marketing USP, along with naturally high
> > L-theanine levels - these are staggeringly high in Malawi clones -
> > PC108 has 3.1 % theanine compared with Japanese culivars at 1.5% under
> > sun - and the Japanese teas are recognised for their theanine content
> > which by shading can still only reach two thirds of the Malawi level!

>
> > Nigel at Teacraft


Thank you all for your tremendous input. I know that when processing
tea's most of the times when they go through what is called a roto-
machine it slices the leaves for further processong of tea bags. This
actually damages the cell wall and allows for quicker oxidation.
Traditionally steaming( more a japanese method) and pan frying ( more
a chinese method) are safer in that they delicately roll the leaves so
as to protect them from damage. I did not know however that the
assamica plant contained more EGCG thats its cousin the sinensis
plant. I was under the impression that the Assamica plant came after
the Sinensis plant when the british invaded India as a result of
china cutting off its trade market back in the 1700's.
 
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Old 17th June 2007, 03:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Jun 3, 7:21 am, tea.exp...@m wrote:
> Does anyone know a good source for green tea containing high amounts
> of EGCG?


Not exactly EGCG but I just ran into this website on GABA [Gamma-
aminobutyric acid].
Just in case somebody is interested in some additional health related
tea tech.

Karsten
 
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