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Old 27th October 2006, 12:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It wasn't easy digging out the Jing post, then 2003 sounded right, then
you couldn't find it, then 1995 as I remembered but thought that
another post but couldn't find it, shu and sheng I more or less have to
look up if it's been awhile, ripe-unripe-green-black-cooked-uncooked I
don't.

Jim

Michael Plant wrote:
> Space Cowboy1161960565.338423.270030@f16g2...leg ro10/27/06
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> > Oops. Switch the terms sheng and shu. I've botched two posts this
> > morning. Not bad.

>
> Sorry for totally unnecessary previous interference.
> Michael
 
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Old 27th October 2006, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know but Google never forgets and my back hurts from shoveling
yesterday trying to stay ahead of a blizzard so I could get out in the
afternoon whose intensity the NWS never saw coming. Like shu or sheng
I can never remember to park the urban 4WD at the top of the hill.

Jim

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....I delete me...
> Jim, if the terrible truth be known, this will all mean about as much in a
> hundred years as it did a hundred years ago.
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Old 27th October 2006, 02:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got it. It smells like an old 'shu'. Now if I can remember to undo
spring back, fall forward.

Jim

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> > Oops. Switch the terms sheng and shu. I've botched two posts this
> > morning. Not bad.

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> Sorry for totally unnecessary previous interference.
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Oct 27, 1:52 pm, "Dominic T." <dominictibe...@> wrote:
> Green/uncooked is different, my mother describes it as more of a
> cigarette/cigar ash smell. I don't get that and find it much more easy
> on the palate.


I might be wrong here, but I consider the cigarette ash taste a
negative. I've noticed it in cheaper Xiaguan tuos.
 
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Old 27th October 2006, 04:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Alex wrote:
> I might be wrong here, but I consider the cigarette ash taste a
> negative. I've noticed it in cheaper Xiaguan tuos.


Oh, I consider it negative too, but I just don't taste it even in a
cheap Xiaguan tuo. I normally have a pretty accurate palate too so I'm
not sure why I'm missing it but I don't ever get that note. She tends
to detect it in many green puerhs, and she isn't a tea buff so I tend
to believe her when she brings up tasting certain flavors or aromas.
Her exact quote was it smells like a Dinobli cigar ash. (Dinobli's are
strange little Italian Cigars my great-grandfater smoked)

- Dominic
Drinking: slumming it with a lipton teabag and white sugar.
 
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Old 27th October 2006, 05:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Oct 27, 4:17 pm, "Dominic T." <dominictibe...@> wrote:
> Alex wrote:
> > I might be wrong here, but I consider the cigarette ash taste a
> > negative. I've noticed it in cheaper Xiaguan tuos.Oh, I consider it negative too, but I just don't taste it even in a

> cheap Xiaguan tuo. I normally have a pretty accurate palate too so I'm
> not sure why I'm missing it but I don't ever get that note. She tends
> to detect it in many green puerhs, and she isn't a tea buff so I tend
> to believe her when she brings up tasting certain flavors or aromas.
> Her exact quote was it smells like a Dinobli cigar ash. (Dinobli's are
> strange little Italian Cigars my great-grandfater smoked)
>
> - Dominic
> Drinking: slumming it with a lipton teabag and white sugar.


Lucky for you that you can't taste it! It's pretty nasty.
 
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Old 27th October 2006, 05:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On Oct 27, 4:17 pm, "Dominic T." <dominictibe...@> wrote:
> Alex wrote:
> > I might be wrong here, but I consider the cigarette ash taste a
> > negative. I've noticed it in cheaper Xiaguan tuos.Oh, I consider it negative too, but I just don't taste it even in a

> cheap Xiaguan tuo. I normally have a pretty accurate palate too so I'm
> not sure why I'm missing it but I don't ever get that note. She tends
> to detect it in many green puerhs, and she isn't a tea buff so I tend
> to believe her when she brings up tasting certain flavors or aromas.
> Her exact quote was it smells like a Dinobli cigar ash. (Dinobli's are
> strange little Italian Cigars my great-grandfater smoked)
>
> - Dominic
> Drinking: slumming it with a lipton teabag and white sugar.


Lucky for you that you can't taste it! It's pretty nasty.
 
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Old 28th October 2006, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Lewis Perin wrote:

> That's an interesting idea, but wouldn't you expect a tea marred by
> this to taste like charcoal rather than cigarettes? (I'm thinking of
> badly fired oolongs.)
>

No, because the processes are not the same. Here they are trying to
dry out the otherwise still rather wet leaves. In the case of oolongs,
they are already dry (more or less) and are roasting them. The heat,
I'd imagine, are also not quite the same.

> As in employees smoking: this seems plausible. But it couldn't happen
> if the cakes were manufactured here in smoke-free New York City!


I didn't mean employees smoking, more like the stove where they use to
produce the steam to soften the tea (so they can be pressed) is leaking
smoke, or some such.
 
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Old 30th October 2006, 01:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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MarshalN <lczhang@> wrote:
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>As far as I am aware, big leaf varietal tea from Yunnan does not taste
>smokey... and any kind of smoke in any kind of tea is not natural.


So you don't LIKE lapsang souchong?
--scott

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