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Old 18th June 2008, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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On Jun 17, 11:26 pm, "RST Engineering" <j...@rstengineering.com>
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> Um, that would be the 405.  I-5 is about ten miles northeast.
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> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
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>  Includes a 737 that had a total electrical failure on
> rotation from 25L at LGB and he stopped with his wingtip hanging over
> the edge of the runway looking down on I-5. Talk about a high pucker
> factor?!


No wonder I kept getting lost on that damned freeway system!!! <ggg>
You are absolutely right of course and I operated out of LGB for years
and out of SNA for as many more. In fact, I started flying out of SNA
back in the mid 50's and worked the SoCal area for at least 20+ years.
The airplane was the old Western Airlines group and I think the
incident was about ....geeeezz '63-64? sometime in the 60's anyway....
 
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Old 19th June 2008, 02:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:08:09 -0700, "RST Engineering"
<jim@rstengineering.com> wrote in
<ecOdnbcpSaBfRsTVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@supernews.com> :

>Funny, back in the '60s I'd send students on cross-countries to SNA (now
>John Wayne) without a thought of it. Nowadays I'd be nuts to do that.


Right. Today, the wake turbulence from the B-757s landing on 19R and
jet blast from airliners holding between the runways on taxiway Lima,
not to mention the windshere and birds, can be lethal for a solo
student landing on 19L. But I've got a signature in my logbook from
someone at Martin Aviation in 1970 to verify my solo xcountry.

 
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On Jun 19, 1:09 am, Larry Dighera <LDigh...@att.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:08:09 -0700, "RST Engineering"
> <j...@rstengineering.com> wrote in
> <ecOdnbcpSaBfRsTVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@supernews.com> :
>
> >Funny, back in the '60s I'd send students on cross-countries to SNA (now
> >John Wayne) without a thought of it.  Nowadays I'd be nuts to do that.

>
> Right.  Today, the wake turbulence from the B-757s landing on 19R and
> jet blast from airliners holding between the runways on taxiway Lima,
> not to mention the windshere and birds, can be lethal for a solo
> student landing on 19L.  But I've got a signature in my logbook from
> someone at Martin Aviation in 1970 to verify my solo xcountry.  


You'd be hard pressed to even find where Martin was back then! I think
in the 70's it was still just south of the ramp area where air
carriers were parking. Mission Beech was on the north end and so was
transient parking. Long gone ...........Back when I first flew out of
SNA, there were parallel strips and one of them was used for drag
races on weekends! Torbet, Martin and Tallman aviation were all
operating. Mile Square was still popular for touch and goes and not
uncommon to see a mix of military and civilian aircraft in the
pattern ... also long gone for flying. Many of the old strips are
ancient history all across the country..
 
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