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Old 18th June 2008, 10:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Doing touch-and-gos last weekend I flared on landing and ballooned
more than I expected. I realized that I didn't have the throttle 100%
out and was consequently carrying more power than I would have
normally been. Like a doofus, I went ahead and pulled power out all
the way and dropped the plane onto the runway from higher than I would
normally have liked. I didn't hurt the plane (thank goodness) but it
made me think about what I should have done.

I want to talk through my thinking and get opinions. I will, of
course, discuss this with my CFI but I won't see him for two weeks and
wanted it discuss it sooner than then.

First of all, there were almost no winds and I had almost 4K feet of
runway left to do whatever I was going to do.

My first, obvious choice is to go around. If there had been any kind
of wind that is what I would do and just call missed approach.

Assuming that I would rather just land the plane, I am trying to
figure out how to get back to a configuration to land. Because my
speeds were what I always target, to get the speeds down with extra
power means I had to be coming in a little nose high. Taking away
excess power, full flaps, nose high is a recipe for an immediate
stall. It seems to me that what I could have done would be to lower
the nose a little and then pull off throttle and simply fly straight
forward until the plane touches down. I don't really see that I can
pull the nose up to lose speed because I've already given up all my
descent speed by that point. In this somewhat messed up approach, is
there a better way to handle it?
 
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Old 18th June 2008, 09:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@rcn.com> wrote:
> NEVER forget, you have the option to go around, and if in ANY doubt
> whatsoever about what to do, take it around and try it again.


Good advice for powered fixed wing aircraft.

But I just started glider training (finally!) and I suspect my CFIG will
not be giving quite the same advice when I get to that stage! ;-)
 
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Old 18th June 2008, 09:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jim Logajan wrote:
> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@rcn.com> wrote:
>> NEVER forget, you have the option to go around, and if in ANY doubt
>> whatsoever about what to do, take it around and try it again.

>
> Good advice for powered fixed wing aircraft.
>
> But I just started glider training (finally!) and I suspect my CFIG will
> not be giving quite the same advice when I get to that stage! ;-)


:-)) Tis true. EVERY one of your landings is a forced landing. Got to
love sail planes and gliding. If I had my druthers I's get every fixed
wing pilot in the world to take glider training. It's a wonderful way to
learn and understand aerodynamics.......and it's fun too!!!
:-))

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Dudley Henriques
 
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