Canard or Mooney

I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the
same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble
getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing
something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase?

On Sun, 04 May 2008 23:12:53 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

> On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:35:13 -0400, Linton Yarbrough
> <lyarbrough@**************> wrote:
>
>>I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
>>anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the
>>same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble
>>getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing
>>something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase?
>
> not necessarily.
> you only get the performance figures *after* you've built the design
> and flown it.
> aviation is littered with designs that looked promising but werent.
>
> Stealth Pilot

To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone
else's work. :( but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to
the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good?

"Linton Yarbrough" <lyarbrough@**************> wrote in message
news:fvl9b2$445$1@aioe.org...
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 23:12:53 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:35:13 -0400, Linton Yarbrough
>> <lyarbrough@**************> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
>>>anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the
>>>same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble
>>>getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing
>>>something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase?
>>
>> not necessarily.
>> you only get the performance figures *after* you've built the design
>> and flown it.
>> aviation is littered with designs that looked promising but werent.
>>
>> Stealth Pilot
>
> To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone
> else's work. :( but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to
> the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good?

I dunno. For an assortment of reasons, I have not been hanging around the
local airport for the past couple of years. But the one builder that I knew
who actually started flying a Wankel powered Cozy MkIV finally gave up and
switched to a Lycoming O-360. From what I have heard, he was unsuccessful
at cooling the Wankel; but the Lycoming is running without problems.

The only recommendations that I can make are to look/ask on
rec.aviation.homebuilt and also on the canard forum. (I have forgoten what
the canard forum is really called and/or where it is located, but someone on
R.A.H will be sure to know.)

Peter

a Ruski!
Dave S has brought this to us :
> That was Buly Aliev..

> Dave S has brought this to us :
>> That was Buly Aliev..
>

"clint" <cleteus@**********> wrote in message news:fvmcvq$g3c$1@aioe.org...
>a Ruski!
>

Not exactly, but trivial. OTOH, he is/was a contributor to the fuel price
watch system which does seem important...

Peter

>
> To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone
> else's work. :( but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to
> the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good?


How can a Wankel be good? Terrible fuel economy.

"Dave S" <Dastaten@**************> wrote
>
> I would hope that I know this. I've built a rotary and had it running on an
> airframe, alas not without problems (not with the rotary itself, but part of a
> builders learning curve)

Then you are well aware of the problem of dealing with all of the excess heat
the rotary produces.

I am not an anti auto engine person; far from it. I like some of the things the
rotary brings to the table, in fact.

I am not sure that I would want to have to deal with the problems, though some,
including you, have been willing to.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" <jsmorgan@charterJUNK.net> wrote in message
news:CM6Uj.149$xM.11@newsfe07.lga...
>
> "Dave S" <Dastaten@**************> wrote
>>
>> I would hope that I know this. I've built a rotary and had it running on
>> an airframe, alas not without problems (not with the rotary itself, but
>> part of a builders learning curve)
>
> Then you are well aware of the problem of dealing with all of the excess
> heat the rotary produces.
>
> I am not an anti auto engine person; far from it. I like some of the
> things the rotary brings to the table, in fact.
>
> I am not sure that I would want to have to deal with the problems, though
> some, including you, have been willing to.
> --
> Jim in NC
That does sum it up. The rotaries just take a lot more dedication that I'll
ever have.

Peter

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On May 3, 9:35 am, Linton Yarbrough <lyarbro...@**************> wrote:
> I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
> anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the
> same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble
> getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing
> something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase?

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> On May 3, 9:35 am, Linton Yarbrough <lyarbro...@**************> wrote:
>
> > I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
> > anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the
> > same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble
> > getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing
> > something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase?