Altimeter Question

Kai,

> So...what would you say instead of "Request QDM" in the U.S.?

You would say to yourself: "Gotta switch on that GPS". ;-)

> The most important Q-codes still in use here in Germany are probably QNH,
> QFE, QDM, QDR.

Hmm. QNH is used everyday, of course. I haven't heard QFE ever except in
the UK. QDM and QDR are used in written exams, but not really in practice,
in my experience.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

WingFlaps,

> That way they get to keep their jobs endlessly revising
> poor practice.
>

It's worse when everybody and their brothers come up with their own
personal idea of what is good practice in radio communcations.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

>> So...what would you say instead of "Request QDM" in the U.S.?
>
>You would say to yourself: "Gotta switch on that GPS". ;-)

Ah, that magical instrument which we pretend does not exist in PPL training
and which becomes the only method of navigation the minute you got your
license. :-)

OTOH: if i was navigating with the I Follow Roads method in our school's
C172E and couldn't find an airfield, I'd probably just ask for a QDM instead
of trying to dial in the four letters in that ooooold Trimble 2000 GPS.
Nothing beats moving map GPS of course.

Hi,

In article <510c7a03-3b5c-4e27-a940-49fd74e9fc0b@z24g2000prf..com>,
WingFlaps<Moreflaps@> wrote:
> International maritime radio license procedures...

Umm...this is rec.aviation.xxxx

Andy

On Apr 22, 10:13 pm, Andy Hawkins <a...@gently.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <510c7a03-3b5c-4e27-a940-49fd74e9f...@z24g2000prf..com>,
>            WingFlaps<Morefl...@> wrote:
>
> > International maritime radio license procedures...
>
> Umm...this is rec.aviation.xxxx
>

Was the mayday relay message I posted more efficient and/or clearer
than the aviation version? Being licensed in both aviation and
maritime R/T, my choice would be the maritime format of distress
messages.

Cheers

Hi,

In article <2b88b90d-4c8f-4ec7-a888-059da6b31b64@l42g2000hsc..com>,
WingFlaps<Moreflaps@> wrote:
> Was the mayday relay message I posted more efficient and/or clearer
> than the aviation version? Being licensed in both aviation and
> maritime R/T, my choice would be the maritime format of distress
> messages.

It might be more efficient and clearer, but isn't necessarily something a
listening pilot would be expecting to hear, which is the point of
standardised phraseology.

Andy

On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, Dave Doe <h...@work.ok> wrote:
> In article <2b88b90d-4c8f-4ec7-a888-059da6b31b64
> @l42g2000hsc..com>, Morefl...@ says...
>
> > On Apr 22, 10:13 pm, Andy Hawkins <a...@gently.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > In article <510c7a03-3b5c-4e27-a940-49fd74e9f...@z24g2000prf..com>,
> > >            WingFlaps<Morefl...@> wrote:
>
> > > > International maritime radio license procedures...
>
> > > Umm...this is rec.aviation.xxxx
>
> > Was the mayday relay message I posted more efficient and/or clearer
> > than the aviation version? Being licensed in both aviation and
> > maritime R/T, my choice would be the maritime format of distress
> > messages.
>
> As am I - but I would disagree with you.  The maritime phraseology -
> IMO, is slower and less intuitive (maday relay is a good example).  
>
> Over.
>

Yawn

Cheers

On Apr 23, 8:33 am, Andy Hawkins <a...@gently.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <2b88b90d-4c8f-4ec7-a888-059da6b31...@l42g2000hsc..com>,
>            WingFlaps<Morefl...@> wrote:
>
> > Was the mayday relay message I posted more efficient and/or clearer
> > than the aviation version? Being licensed in both aviation and
> > maritime R/T, my choice would be the maritime format of distress
> > messages.
>
> It might be more efficient and clearer, but isn't necessarily something a
> listening pilot would be expecting to hear, which is the point of
> standardised phraseology.
>


I accept that point, so why not stadardise across maritaime, ham and
air?

Cheers

Tauno,

> >>Mayday relay, mayday relay, mayday relay, (station 3x), Received
> >>mayday (distress station) (distress message reproduced), mayday
> >
> >
> > And the source for that is?
> >
>
>
> ICAO Annex 10, Volume 2, part 5.2, Distress Communications.
> The rules come from ITU Radio Regulations.
>

Actually, distress communications seems to be part 5.3. I could not
find any wording to the effect quoted above. Could you point me to it?


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)