172M and a 172N

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:35:09 GMT, "Cecil E. Chapman"
<bayareapilot@> wrote:

>I haven't been around much lately, but poke my head in now and then (I'm
>instructing 6 days a week, full-time and continuing to enjoy every single
>minute of it).
>
>Question: The Cessna 172N AFM says that intentional spins are not
>permitted. The 172M AFM says that the aircraft can perform spins under
>specific conditions.
>
>So,,, why? I had a student ask me this and I told him I wasn't really sure
>at all. Asked several other instructors and they had no idea either...
>So put it out to the group wisdom out there.... Anyone know 'why' this
>difference between these two models as it relates to allowing and
>disallowing intentional spins?

Spins are most certainly an approved maneuver in the 172N

Thanks. I'm still going with A) lawyers...
It would be interesting to see both weight and balance sheets. If the
structure and control surfaces are identical, the question becomes very
interesting.
Jim

Cecil E. Chapman wrote:
> Question: The Cessna 172N AFM says that intentional spins are not
> permitted.

Really? Do you have a reference?

Hilton

"Cecil E. Chapman" <bayareapilot@> wrote in message
news:hpBIj.24393$Ej5.7884@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et...
> I haven't been around much lately, but poke my head in now
> and then (I'm instructing 6 days a week, full-time and continuing
> to enjoy every single minute of it).
>

That's impressive, considering the shape of the economy. I didn't realize
Nice Air had such a steady supply of Japanese students. How do they manage
to get the students?

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:14:45 GMT, "Cecil E. Chapman"
<bayareapilot@> wrote:

>Solved my own mystery,,, the portion of the POH regarding spins ACTUALLY
>only has the admonition against spins in the 172N if the flaps are extended.
>
>Thanks everyone,,, :)

Glad you took the time to actually read the POH (rather than the
"owners guide". :-)

Now, and please don't think I'm trying to criticize, but you might
want to trim the size of your "sig" down to one or two lines. The
present one looks more like a resume ( or curriculm vitae) than a
usenet-style signature.
--
Jay (remove dashes for legal email address)

We have Japanese, Indian, as well as locals fairly steady into our FBO.
They seem to end up with us (many from other schools - like the Indian
students) by word-of-mouth.

Cecil