Landing without flaps

On Mar 10, 11:51 am, "Owner" <Ow...@noemail.com> wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote in messagenews:e17d1d43-2aa8-4684-a372-e2eeddfd40ef@e25g2000prg..com...
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> > On Mar 10, 9:10 am, The.Sar...@ wrote:
> >> On Mar 7, 9:30 pm, buttman <nbvF...@> wrote:
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> >> > On 7 Mar, 19:22, Dudley Henriques <dhenriq...@rcn.com> wrote:
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> >> > > How's that? Learned something?:-)
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> >> > > --
> >> > > Dudley Henriques
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> >> > No because you did not teach anything. "This is how it is" is not
> >> > teaching, it's telling.
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> >> > Anyways, the topic of discussion has never been about "is it OK to
> >> > starve fuel on takeoff". Even if it was, its not a matter of "yes" or
> >> > "no"
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> >> > Safety is, in my opinion, never a "yes" or "no" kind of thing. Its
> >> > like discussing abortion or something. It's never as simple as "yes"
> >> > or "no".
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> >> By your logic a driving school should simulate (for training!) how to
> >> handle a blowout by shooting out a tire while on a flyover ramp doing
> >> 70.
> >> To make it interesting you could do it in the rain.
>
> > I'm enjoying this thread now, it's stimulating.
> > The fellas were discussing flying in the rain last
> > week. Shooting out tires, I'm placing that on next
> > weeks agenda.
> > Ken
>
> You can do that in your flight sim Ken??? Wow, I'm impressed!

Sure but it's hard on the monitor.
Ken

"Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
news:bbfd0bc9-19ae-4e59-a8b7-9ac6e136c6c3@s8g2000prg..com:

> On Mar 10, 11:51 am, "Owner" <Ow...@noemail.com> wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
>> messagenews:e17d1d43-2aa8-4684-a372-
e2eeddfd40ef@e25g2000prg.googlegro
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>> > On Mar 10, 9:10 am, The.Sar...@ wrote:
>> >> On Mar 7, 9:30 pm, buttman <nbvF...@> wrote:
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>> >> > On 7 Mar, 19:22, Dudley Henriques <dhenriq...@rcn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > How's that? Learned something?:-)
>>
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Dudley Henriques
>>
>> >> > No because you did not teach anything. "This is how it is" is
>> >> > not teaching, it's telling.
>>
>> >> > Anyways, the topic of discussion has never been about "is it OK
>> >> > to starve fuel on takeoff". Even if it was, its not a matter of
>> >> > "yes" or "no"
>>
>> >> > Safety is, in my opinion, never a "yes" or "no" kind of thing.
>> >> > Its like discussing abortion or something. It's never as simple
>> >> > as "yes" or "no".
>>
>> >> By your logic a driving school should simulate (for training!) how
>> >> to handle a blowout by shooting out a tire while on a flyover ramp
>> >> doing 70.
>> >> To make it interesting you could do it in the rain.
>>
>> > I'm enjoying this thread now, it's stimulating.
>> > The fellas were discussing flying in the rain last
>> > week. Shooting out tires, I'm placing that on next
>> > weeks agenda.
>> > Ken
>>
>> You can do that in your flight sim Ken??? Wow, I'm impressed!
>
> Sure but it's hard on the monitor.

Like all your other activities.


Bertie

stuff@here.com wrote in news:21bbv3tlno484t5qe9krlvo19av0g23b5o@:

> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:56:54 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip <AA@AA.AA>
> wrote:
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> All things considered, I wonder how long you'd have to circle in a
> coordinated turn at 60, or 45 degrees before there was a fuel
> imbalance? <:-)) Pattern turns ARE STILL supposed to be coordinated
> aren't they?<cough>
>
> OTOH I wonder how long a 150 could remain in a maximum effort slip
> without hitting the ground before a noticable/detectable fuel
> imbalance developed?
>
>>with.

Well, i know someone who unported a Bird-dog slipping and ended up
deadsticking. They have no both selection, though.

Bertie

stuff@here.com wrote in news:nfaev3hid96amp30ivek5impbs4pei6l55@:

> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:03:59 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip <AA@AA.AA>
> wrote:
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>>stuff@here.com wrote in news:21bbv3tlno484t5qe9krlvo19av0g23b5o@
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>>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:56:54 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
<AA@AA.AA>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All things considered, I wonder how long you'd have to circle in a
>>> coordinated turn at 60, or 45 degrees before there was a fuel
>>> imbalance? <:-)) Pattern turns ARE STILL supposed to be
coordinated
>>> aren't they?<cough>
>>>
>>> OTOH I wonder how long a 150 could remain in a maximum effort slip
>>> without hitting the ground before a noticable/detectable fuel
>>> imbalance developed?
>>>
>>>>with.
>>
>>Well, i know someone who unported a Bird-dog slipping and ended up
>>deadsticking. They have no both selection, though.
>
> I've unported the Deb too, but it wasn't due to fuel running to the
> other side<:-)) No baffels in the tanks.
>>

So, you were slipping towards the feeding tank, or was it turbulence or
something?


Bertie

On Apr 4, 4:27 pm, st...@here.com wrote:

> OTOH I wonder how long a 150 could remain in a maximum effort slip
> without hitting the ground before a noticable/detectable fuel
> imbalance developed?

Saw some-one once do a local with the 'ability' to fly one wing low in
a C150.
He lost about a third of his fuel through the low tank overflow

george <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote in news:1423eebd-6a80-40dd-b045-1138d02653c5
@q10g2000prf..com:

> On Apr 4, 4:27 pm, st...@here.com wrote:
>
>> OTOH I wonder how long a 150 could remain in a maximum effort slip
>> without hitting the ground before a noticable/detectable fuel
>> imbalance developed?
>
> Saw some-one once do a local with the 'ability' to fly one wing low in
> a C150.
> He lost about a third of his fuel through the low tank overflow
>

He would have done, OK.

Bertie