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Old 19th October 2004, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Existing training is grandfathered out of the TSA rule

>And IPC's.
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And night proficiency, avionics software, weather training, crosswind
techniques, line-oriented cross country, mountainous areas, insurance
qualification courses for aircraft, etc. Anything that is not required for
recurrency of a type rating is considered "normal" training and therefor the
non-US citizen must apply to the TSA for the training course. And of course
fork over $130 for each application, and let's not forget that the instructor
has to take a picture of the non-US citizen pilot as he shows up for the
appointment.

I will fight this tooth and nail. My plan is otherwise known as civil
inconvenience.


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Old 19th October 2004, 06:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Existing training is grandfathered out of the TSA rule

What happened to AOPA? There web site has gone silent on all this. Are
they all too busy celebrating out in CA? Last I heard, they were going to
fight this tooth and nail as well.

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"paul k. sanchez" <sanchezpaulk@> wrote in message
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> >And IPC's.
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>>-jav
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>
> And night proficiency, avionics software, weather training, crosswind
> techniques, line-oriented cross country, mountainous areas, insurance
> qualification courses for aircraft, etc. Anything that is not required for
> recurrency of a type rating is considered "normal" training and therefor
> the
> non-US citizen must apply to the TSA for the training course. And of
> course
> fork over $130 for each application, and let's not forget that the
> instructor
> has to take a picture of the non-US citizen pilot as he shows up for the
> appointment.
>
> I will fight this tooth and nail. My plan is otherwise known as civil
> inconvenience.
>
>
> paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
> on eagles' wings
> 10643 shore drive
> boca raton, florida 33428-5645
> 305-389-1742 wireless
> 561-852-6779 home/fax
> sanchezpaulk@



 
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Old 20th October 2004, 04:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Existing training is grandfathered out of the TSA rule

David Brooks <d_w_brooks@rhymeswithnotsale.com> wrote:
> 1) I took another look at today's "clarifications". The TSA chief counsel
> has decided the rule applies only to training in pursuit of a certificate or
> type rating, so Paul's list is no longer an issue.


Joe Terrorist comes up to me and says, "I want to learn how to fly an
airplane". I ask, "Do you want to work towards the Private Pilot
Certificate or the Recreational/Sport/Whatever Certificate?" Joe
says, "I don't want to persue any certificate at all, I just want to
learn to fly a plane for the fun knowing I've done it, and don't care
if I ever see it through to getting a certificate"

Seems to me since he's not training in persuit of a certificate, I
guess the rule doesn't apply, right? I would imagine that wasn't
quite what the TSA was trying to achieve.

I havn't been following the day-to-day. Can you give me a URL for all
this?
 
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