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Old 16th October 2004, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trevor Cudmore wrote:
> Also
> just before touch-down, I find myself starting to yaw to one side of the
> run-way.


This happens to me sometimes too. I think its because of the right
turning tendencies are reversed since the engine is idle, but I'm no
aerodynamics expert. Coordination is vital, especially on crosswind
landings.

Right now I have something like 180 landings logged and I'm just now
beginning to get really good at smooth landings. My instructors have
always told me to look long and wide down the runway when in the flare.
They say it gives you a better idea of how high you are above the
ground. This is key. I never really embraced this bit of advice until
recently. As you feel yourself sink, gradually give it more back
pressure until you feel the wheels slide onto the ground.

And one more thing. Do not look at any of the dials on your panel after
you reach short final (unless you are in IMC or something). Doing great
landings is all about feel. As long as you are established on a glide
slope of appropriate trim/power setting/flap setting/etc. you don't need
to touch a thing. I guess it depends on the specific plane you are in,
but most will stay in that state right until you specifically change
something yourself (this is called static stability). Some instructors
will tell you to glance at the panel ever so often while on final to
make sure everything is OK, which I think is fine, but I personally can
more easily get that info from looking outside by judging ground
movement. Remember, I'm not a CFI so any other advice given by someone
who is actually qualified to give it trumps mine.
 
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Old 17th October 2004, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Trevor Cudmore" wrote:
> My instructor has pointed out that I tend to use left aileron
> just before touch-down, possibly due to gripping too
> tightly on the control wheel. Also just before touch-down,
> I find myself starting to yaw to one side of the run-way.


Ask your instructor for some practice slow-flying the length of the
runway without touching down. Do this until you can track the center
line reliably.

> The end result of trying to correct all of this is a
> very heavy landing, quite often with a bounce or two. Can anyone
> offer some advice?


As Tony Roberts pointed out, bounced landings are often due to being too
fast. Find the proper approach speed in the airplane's POH and practice
nailing it.

Oh, yeah: and be patient. 16 hours? Some of us (ahem!) were still
bouncing landings at 50 hours.
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Dan
C172RG at BFM


 
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Old 25th October 2004, 04:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In article <2mo6n0tcjkesutdrcq0mvdrhg7o50sltb3@>, Roger wrote:
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> I think that airplane is sentient. It knows when it's time to dish out
> a dose of humility.


I think your airplane and my airplane have been talking to each other. :-)


Morris
 
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