GPS-NAV security sealing

On Aug 25, 10:54 pm, Sam Discusflyer <growursavi...@m>
wrote:
> Is there a way to input a security code in a Cambridge GPS_NAV and seal it
> without spending hundreds of dollars?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> Steve Michalik

Exact cost for 1 day turnaround by Gary at NK the week before last was
$130 including memory battery , calibration chart,and next day return
delivery.
My experience is that this is excellent service for a very fair price.
Certainly not the "hundreds of dollars" you seem to anticipate.
UH

Hi,

Yes, it is possible to change the backup battery without breaking the seal.
Just keep the unit powered with 12V power while replacing the backup
battery.

The customer that started this thread had the backup battery get too low and
die before it was replaced. The unit then had a security failure and needs
re-sealing.

Paul Remde

"Fred Blair" <passport@thetravelintexans.com> wrote in message
news:g92emu$cvt$1@aioe.org...
> Can't you change the internal battery before it gets real low without
> breaking the seal?
>
> <unclhank@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:9c834e99-6152-465e-8d99-583213a4152d@t1g2000pra..com...
> On Aug 25, 10:54 pm, Sam Discusflyer <growursavi...@m>
> wrote:
>> Is there a way to input a security code in a Cambridge GPS_NAV and seal
>> it
>> without spending hundreds of dollars?
>>
>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>> Steve Michalik
>
> Exact cost for 1 day turnaround by Gary at NK the week before last was
> $130 including memory battery , calibration chart,and next day return
> delivery.
> My experience is that this is excellent service for a very fair price.
> Certainly not the "hundreds of dollars" you seem to anticipate.
> UH
>

Hi Steve,

I understand your point and I agree with it. I do web conferencing all the
time and connect to the customer's computer so I can see that they are doing
and walk them through procedures. With their permission I can even control
their PC. That method could probably be used to re-seal your GPS-NAV. I
would be in control from my office and I would enter the re-seal codes told
to me over the phone by NK. Give me a call if you want to give it a try.
Since I'm in full control and you can't duplicate what I'm doing, I don't
see any reason why there would be any security concerns.

Paul Remde

"Sam Discusflyer" <growursavings@m> wrote in message
news:6hk2bgFmkugcU1@mid....
> Yes these are all good answers. And yes I let the battery get low. And you
> change the lithium battery while it's hooked up to external supply. But
> no I don't use the GPS_NAV display so the voltage doesn't show all the
> time. And it will be less cost if I ship through the post office. And no
> offense to the vendors.
>
> In this age of computers and rising fuel costs and shipping costs plus
> insurance, isn't it possible to make better use of technology and provide
> for security sealing by computer communication? We transfer money
> electronically don't we? A lot of people have done electronic payments
> right? You can give control of your PC to someone over the internet and
> they can run a software program on their computer to load a device hooked
> up to your computer. And so me average joe doesn't have the key program
> to cheat (like I really want to anyway). I know this communication is
> possible because I've done it.
>
> So why is it not possible to hook up the GPS unit to the PC connected to
> the internet, connect with the key master and load the serial #?
>
> You can still pay the $20 or $40 dollar cost to the proprieter with paypal
> or visa and both parties are happy.
>
> I guess I still have to support Brown Company anyway. Thanks for the
> discussion.
>
> Steve Michalik
>
>
> At 03:24 27 August 2008, HL Falbaum wrote:
>>
>>"Paul Remde" wrote in message
>>news:vh3tk.315622$yE1.151194@attbi_s21...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, it is possible to change the backup battery without breaking the
>>> seal. Just keep the unit powered with 12V power while replacing the
>>backup
>>> battery.
>>>
>>> The customer that started this thread had the backup battery get too
> low
>>
>>> and die before it was replaced. The unit then had a security failure
>>and
>>> needs re-sealing.
>>>
>>> Paul Remde
>>>
>>> "Fred Blair" wrote in message
>>> news:g92emu$cvt$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Can't you change the internal battery before it gets real low without
>
>>>> breaking the seal?
>>>>
>>>> wrote in message
>>>>
>>news:9c834e99-6152-465e-8d99-583213a4152d@t1g2000pra..com...
>>>> On Aug 25, 10:54 pm, Sam Discusflyer
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way to input a security code in a Cambridge GPS_NAV and
>>seal
>>>>> it
>>>>> without spending hundreds of dollars?
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>>>>> Steve Michalik
>>>>
>>>> Exact cost for 1 day turnaround by Gary at NK the week before last
> was
>>>> $130 including memory battery , calibration chart,and next day return
>>>> delivery.
>>>> My experience is that this is excellent service for a very fair
> price.
>>>> Certainly not the "hundreds of dollars" you seem to anticipate.
>>>> UH
>>>>
>>>
>>The old Cambridge DOS program for the PC reads the voltage of the
> backup
>>
>>battery. The Cambridge Nav head also shows the backup voltage upon
>>power-up.
>>It pay to obsesrve this from time to time.
>>
>>Hartley Falbaum
>>USA
>>
>>
>>

Hi Steve,

Never mind. I guess it makes sense for me (or NK) to have the unit in hand
to make sure it hasn't been tampered with. That is the reason for the
existing process.

Paul Remde

"Paul Remde" <paul@remde.us> wrote in message
news:7Edtk.261163$TT4.65181@attbi_s22...
> Hi Steve,
>
> I understand your point and I agree with it. I do web conferencing all
> the time and connect to the customer's computer so I can see that they are
> doing and walk them through procedures. With their permission I can even
> control their PC. That method could probably be used to re-seal your
> GPS-NAV. I would be in control from my office and I would enter the
> re-seal codes told to me over the phone by NK. Give me a call if you want
> to give it a try. Since I'm in full control and you can't duplicate what
> I'm doing, I don't see any reason why there would be any security
> concerns.
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "Sam Discusflyer" <growursavings@m> wrote in message
> news:6hk2bgFmkugcU1@mid....
>> Yes these are all good answers. And yes I let the battery get low. And
>> you
>> change the lithium battery while it's hooked up to external supply. But
>> no I don't use the GPS_NAV display so the voltage doesn't show all the
>> time. And it will be less cost if I ship through the post office. And no
>> offense to the vendors.
>>
>> In this age of computers and rising fuel costs and shipping costs plus
>> insurance, isn't it possible to make better use of technology and provide
>> for security sealing by computer communication? We transfer money
>> electronically don't we? A lot of people have done electronic payments
>> right? You can give control of your PC to someone over the internet and
>> they can run a software program on their computer to load a device hooked
>> up to your computer. And so me average joe doesn't have the key program
>> to cheat (like I really want to anyway). I know this communication is
>> possible because I've done it.
>>
>> So why is it not possible to hook up the GPS unit to the PC connected to
>> the internet, connect with the key master and load the serial #?
>>
>> You can still pay the $20 or $40 dollar cost to the proprieter with
>> paypal
>> or visa and both parties are happy.
>>
>> I guess I still have to support Brown Company anyway. Thanks for the
>> discussion.
>>
>> Steve Michalik
>>
>>
>> At 03:24 27 August 2008, HL Falbaum wrote:
>>>
>>>"Paul Remde" wrote in message
>>>news:vh3tk.315622$yE1.151194@attbi_s21...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is possible to change the backup battery without breaking the
>>>> seal. Just keep the unit powered with 12V power while replacing the
>>>backup
>>>> battery.
>>>>
>>>> The customer that started this thread had the backup battery get too
>> low
>>>
>>>> and die before it was replaced. The unit then had a security failure
>>>and
>>>> needs re-sealing.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Remde
>>>>
>>>> "Fred Blair" wrote in message
>>>> news:g92emu$cvt$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Can't you change the internal battery before it gets real low without
>>
>>>>> breaking the seal?
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>news:9c834e99-6152-465e-8d99-583213a4152d@t1g2000pra..com...
>>>>> On Aug 25, 10:54 pm, Sam Discusflyer
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there a way to input a security code in a Cambridge GPS_NAV and
>>>seal
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> without spending hundreds of dollars?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>>>>>> Steve Michalik
>>>>>
>>>>> Exact cost for 1 day turnaround by Gary at NK the week before last
>> was
>>>>> $130 including memory battery , calibration chart,and next day return
>>>>> delivery.
>>>>> My experience is that this is excellent service for a very fair
>> price.
>>>>> Certainly not the "hundreds of dollars" you seem to anticipate.
>>>>> UH
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>The old Cambridge DOS program for the PC reads the voltage of the
>> backup
>>>
>>>battery. The Cambridge Nav head also shows the backup voltage upon
>>>power-up.
>>>It pay to obsesrve this from time to time.
>>>
>>>Hartley Falbaum
>>>USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>