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Old 17th February 2008, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Gang
Having a LSA power plane and in reviewing the proposed new
experimental certifications (FAA Order 8130.2F) which includes gliders
left me very puzzled. Why would anyone register a glider or motor
glider as an experimental or standard light sport aircraft (LSA)
although 8130.2F specifically includes them? The reason for
registering a power plane as a LSA is that no medical is required,
only a valid driving license, with the caveat that one is never denied
a medical. A glider or motor glider, whether registered as standard or
experimental, does not require the pilot to have a medical PERIOD. So
what am I missing? I am confused! Can anyone educate me please or is
this bureaucratic BS.
Dave
 
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Old 18th February 2008, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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d.bingham@ wrote:
> OK Guys and Gals convince me - give me a single reason, just a
> single rational reason to register a glider as a LSA despite the
> multitude of reasons not to do so.


I doubt very many Sparrowhawks are legal Part 103 ultralights, most are
quite simply over the weight limitation. Owners of "fat" ultralights
are being "encouraged" to recertify under LSA (though I believe there
was a grace period which may be over, by now). If you're willing to
take your chances on not getting a ramp check involving a scale, then
there probably is no reason to switch.

LSA certification does allow for the manufacture of a two seat training
glider that can be used commercially, without going through a
multi-million dollar certification process. And yes, the 10,000 foot
limitation goes away if the PIC has a private license...

Marc
 
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Old 18th February 2008, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Feb 18, 9:49 am, Marc Ramsey <m...@ranlogREMOVE.com> wrote:
> d.bing...@ wrote:
> > OK Guys and Gals convince me - give me a single reason, just a
> > single rational reason to register a glider as a LSA despite the
> > multitude of reasons not to do so.

>
> I doubt very many Sparrowhawks are legal Part 103 ultralights, most are
> quite simply over the weight limitation. Owners of "fat" ultralights
> are being "encouraged" to recertify under LSA (though I believe there
> was a grace period which may be over, by now). If you're willing to
> take your chances on not getting a ramp check involving a scale, then
> there probably is no reason to switch.
>
> LSA certification does allow for the manufacture of a two seat training
> glider that can be used commercially, without going through a
> multi-million dollar certification process. And yes, the 10,000 foot
> limitation goes away if the PIC has a private license...
>
> Marc


Hi Marc
I do not disagree with what you are saying but you have not answered
my question which is why register say a single place glider as a LSA
glider instead instead of as a regular glider (experimental or
standard).
Except for the 2 place trainer which, as you point out, might make
sense what's the rationale for a single place glider?
Dave




 
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Old 18th February 2008, 02:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Feb 18, 10:55 am, Marc Ramsey <m...@ranlogREMOVE.com> wrote:
> ... the FAA does have rules on the book that
> restrict series manufacture and sale of non-
> type certificated non-ultralight aircraft...


Cite? I keep hearing that, but I keep not seeing it. All those Zunis
got into the air somehow...

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Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Feb 18, 10:55 am, Marc Ramsey <m...@ranlogREMOVE.com> wrote:
>> ... the FAA does have rules on the book that
>> restrict series manufacture and sale of non-
>> type certificated non-ultralight aircraft...

>
> Cite? I keep hearing that, but I keep not seeing it. All those Zunis
> got into the air somehow...


I can't give one, clearly, or I would have in the past. There's a bunch
of stuff in advisory circulars that is just plain hard to track down,
even with the wonders of the internet. Maybe it is a myth, but I doubt
it. Even Applebay was preparing to go through the type certification
dance, why would he have bothered for a single seater?

Marc
 
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