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Old 12th January 2007, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Libelle Camelbak stowage

I, like probably most glider pilots, put my Camelbak behind my head
next to my battery. But a cautionary tale seems appropriate here.

Last Summer a club member had his glider totaled when his battery set
fire to his empty Camelbak. The probable causes, pinched wires and too
big a battery fuse, were certainly preventable. However, it's clear
that the Camelbak acted as tinder for the overheated battery, and the
fire may not have occurred if the Camelbak hadn't been placed next to
the battery.

-John

Gav Goudie wrote:
> Why dont you just put it behind your head like everyone
> else?!
>
> The seat pan / control column support wasnt designed
> to have a camelbak 'lashed' to it and its easier to
> work with gravity than against it!!


 
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Old 12th January 2007, 02:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Libelle Camelbak stowage

Leaving aside the fire or short issue, you need to consider what it
would feel like to be hit in the back of the head with an 80 lb sack.
Many of the first and second generation gliders have the "storage
shelf" level with the back of the pilot's head and nothing (no bulkhead
or other structure except a flimsy headrest) in between. A gallon of
water weighs about 8 lbs, and it's very possible to induce a rapid 10G
deceleration in an otherwise survivable crash (many texts talk about
survivable 20G pulses). 10Gs operating on 8lbs of water with a
straight shot to the back of your head or neck could put you in a world
of hurt.

At minumum, you need to have a system of tying the bag down to some
solid structure. If using the shelf, you'll probably need to run
anchor bolts down to the bulkhead surrounding the landing gear. LS,
for example, has very detailed instructions on doing this.

I've seen a couple of guys go to the trouble of mounting water supplies
behind the main bulkead (in front of the spars and out of the way of
the mixers/ control rods). They fill the supply through a tube. I
would worry about cleaning the container out periodically lest it get
funky over time, but I'm sure they've thought of this.

Cheers,

Erik Mann
LS8-18 P3






jcarlyle wrote:
> I, like probably most glider pilots, put my Camelbak behind my head
> next to my battery. But a cautionary tale seems appropriate here.
>
> Last Summer a club member had his glider totaled when his battery set
> fire to his empty Camelbak. The probable causes, pinched wires and too
> big a battery fuse, were certainly preventable. However, it's clear
> that the Camelbak acted as tinder for the overheated battery, and the
> fire may not have occurred if the Camelbak hadn't been placed next to
> the battery.
>
> -John
>
> Gav Goudie wrote:
> > Why dont you just put it behind your head like everyone
> > else?!
> >
> > The seat pan / control column support wasnt designed
> > to have a camelbak 'lashed' to it and its easier to
> > work with gravity than against it!!


 
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