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26th December 2005, 06:04 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist WWUFSTAALLL
W-WIND
W-WATER
U-UNDERCARRAGE
F-FLAPS
S-SPEED
T-TRIM
A-AIRBRAKES
A-ANNOUNCE
L-LOOK
L-LOOK
L-LOOK
I trim the A/B speed and from base to final
I may reduce the A/B and keep the nose down
particularly if it is turbulant.
I trim the Landing Flap speed with the nose
down.
Doug Whitehead (EDW) | |
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27th December 2005, 10:49 AM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist Tony Verhulst wrote:
> kirk.stant@ wrote:
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>> You got to be reminded to Look? Really?
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> No, it's there because USTALL rolls off the tongue better than USTA.
Maybe that "L" is to remind newbies that they are in the pattern and
they really shouldn't start circling in the inevitable 4 kt thermal on
downwind.
:-)
Shawn | |
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27th December 2005, 12:43 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist "GASP"
Gear
Altitude
Spoilers
Pattern
Keep it simple. Do it every time.
I'm sure everyone has their own version that works for them. | |
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27th December 2005, 05:41 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist In article <v-6dnegGg4B02CzeRVn-qQ@>, Tony Verhulst
<no@thankyou.com> writes
>kirk.stant@ wrote:
>> You got to be reminded to Look? Really?
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>No, it's there because USTALL rolls off the tongue better than USTA.
>
>Tony V "6N"
What about LTFT? (You work it out)
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Mike Lindsay | |
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28th December 2005, 12:10 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist Somehow, I am comforted to know that my commercial transatlantic flight
captain with 15,000 hours and a copilot still uses a checklist before
landing, even though everything is normal procedure for him or her. | |
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6th January 2006, 04:22 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist I guess they will all serve their purpose, but I can
never understand checklists that include things that
you will do anyway. Speed - surely we don't need a
check to fly at the correct speed. Trim - don't we
all adjust the trim when we change attitude/speed.
Lookout and land - you're not telling us you wouldn't
lookout and check the landing area and actually land
without having it in a checklist? Checklists should,
IMO, only include things that you physically need to
do prior to landing. Waterballast should be in there,
you're more likely to need a reminder to dump it than
you are a reminder to do the things you should always
be doing anyway; like looking out, flying at an appropriate
speed and trimming.
At 15:24 06 January 2006, Jettester wrote:
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>FAA recommended checklist for the traffic pattern
>FUSTALL
>
>F - Flaps (on some gliders you may not want to change
>the flaps
>throughout the pattern due to high forces)
>U - Undercarriage
>S - Speeds (based upon wind and sink expected)
>T - Trim Set
>A - Airbrakes / Spoilers (I have had occurrences where
>one popped all
>the way out when first opened.. I'd like to know that
>on downwind!
>(ASW-17 .. Yes the hotelier fittings were pinned!!),
>also on the 2-33 -
>if the handle goes all the way back against the stop
>the brake will not
>work, etc..)
>L - Lookout (Safe landing area.. otherwise land somewhere
>else)
>L - Land
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6th January 2006, 09:23 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist I agree with you, but the student, the tired pilot,
or de-hydrated pilot can view these items as permissions
to continue. Having said, and reviewed all the items
and 'Looked Out for traffic in every quarter, he can
give himself permission to go ahead and 'Land.'
I prefer 'Enter Pattern' at the end to assure that
all checks have been made beforehand, and the work
load is easier in the pattern.
At 21:24 06 January 2006, Mark Dickson wrote:
>I guess they will all serve their purpose, but I can
>never understand checklists that include things that
>you will do anyway. Speed - surely we don't need a
>check to fly at the correct speed. Trim - don't we
>all adjust the trim when we change attitude/speed.
> Lookout and land - you're not telling us you wouldn't
>lookout and check the landing area and actually land
>without having it in a checklist? Checklists should,
>IMO, only include things that you physically need to
>do prior to landing. Waterballast should be in there,
>you're more likely to need a reminder to dump it than
>you are a reminder to do the things you should always
>be doing anyway; like looking out, flying at an appropriate
>speed and trimming.
>
>
>
>At 15:24 06 January 2006, Jettester wrote:
>>>
>>FAA recommended checklist for the traffic pattern
>>FUSTALL
>>
>>F - Flaps (on some gliders you may not want to change
>>the flaps
>>throughout the pattern due to high forces)
>>U - Undercarriage
>>S - Speeds (based upon wind and sink expected)
>>T - Trim Set
>>A - Airbrakes / Spoilers (I have had occurrences where
>>one popped all
>>the way out when first opened.. I'd like to know that
>>on downwind!
>>(ASW-17 .. Yes the hotelier fittings were pinned!!),
>>also on the 2-33 -
>>if the handle goes all the way back against the stop
>>the brake will not
>>work, etc..)
>>L - Lookout (Safe landing area.. otherwise land somewhere
>>else)
>>L - Land
>>
>>
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7th January 2006, 12:19 PM
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| | Guest | Landing Checklist Nyal Williams wrote:
> I agree with you, but the student, the tired pilot,
> or de-hydrated pilot can view these items as permissions
> to continue. Having said, and reviewed all the items
> and 'Looked Out for traffic in every quarter, he can
> give himself permission to go ahead and 'Land.'
>
> I prefer 'Enter Pattern' at the end to assure that
> all checks have been made beforehand, and the work
> load is easier in the pattern.
USTALE ? Remind 'em to get a shower after landing too. ;-)
Shawn | |
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