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Old 25th August 2005, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just checked their web site. $180 sounded too good to be true. It was.
The AHRS-2 lists for $1200.

John


 
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Old 3rd September 2005, 02:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Ramy Yanetz" <ramy@yanetz.net> wrote in message
news:xj8Se.4907$oJ2.4521@newssvr17.news.prodigy.co m...
> In absence of more suitable instrument and/or rating, couldn't a GPS or
> PDA with moving map be used to descend through clouds in emergency by
> zooming in and noting if and what direction the glider is turning?
>
> Ramy



Ramy,

Many GPS have a "HSI" page or at least a track derived "compass". These
would probably be easier use that watching the bread-crumb track on a
zoomed-in map. Besides, the track update rate may be much lower than the GPS
update rate in order to conserve internal track memory, though this is
usually user selectable.

Best of all, IMO, is the "panel page" on the Garmin 196 / 296 / 396.

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Old 4th September 2005, 02:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Tom wrote:

> OK, have you actually done this in a REAL emergency?


No, and I'm not planning to do so. Our club gliders are all equipped
with needle/ball, and I would be very reluctant to fly over a föhn gap
without.

> I have, and it worked.


I've understood this and am glad you succeeded. Just gave you the reason
why course 180 is "recommended". BTW: I don't believe that such a decent
would be successfull in gusty air, at least not reliably so.

> Again, I think you are overlly concerned about a non-issue.


I really hope you are correct and I am wrong. I'm not convinced, though.

> BTW: Your accident pilot was on unauthorized drugs (Russian
> tranquillizer), which was the most likely cause of the accident.


Knowing the involved company first hand, I'm pretty sure it was a lack
of conversion training.

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Old 4th September 2005, 07:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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> bumper
> (who's very happy with the Trutrack and not likely to get confused enough to
> remove it and throw it away :c)


Glad you like it. But I don't and my club isn't going to install it in
any club glider unless they change the display to a needle.

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Old 4th September 2005, 10:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just be sure to have your T&B on ALL of the time; you will not have
time to turn it on when you need it.

I prefer an aviation GPS with an HSI display.

Tom

 
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Old 6th September 2005, 05:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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> Stefan shrieked:
> I have a hard time to imagine a situation where I would be suddenly

in a
> cloud without any forewarning.
>

Steffi;
You wanna get out more. You don't *intend* to go in - it just sort of
happens (p.s. look up 'thermal').
Jonny (no offence ;-)

 
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Old 6th September 2005, 06:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Being inside a cloud does not "just happen". You have to go there, and you
can decide not to go.

Being trapped above a cloud layer under wave conditions is another subject,
though.

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"jonnyboy" <jonjo@earthling.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1126000295.850969.274800@g43g2000cwa.. com...
>> Stefan shrieked:
> > I have a hard time to imagine a situation where I would be suddenly

> in a
> > cloud without any forewarning.
>>

> Steffi;
> You wanna get out more. You don't *intend* to go in - it just sort of
> happens (p.s. look up 'thermal').
> Jonny (no offence ;-)
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Old 6th September 2005, 11:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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jonnyboy wrote:

> You wanna get out more. You don't *intend* to go in - it just sort of
> happens (p.s. look up 'thermal').


Definitely not. If it "just happens" to you, then something is *very*
wrong with your flying tactics and possibly even with your attitude. (It
may "just happen" at night, but I rarely find thermals at night.) In all
real world situations where you might get trapped, there is always
plenty of time to spin up that gyro.

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Old 10th September 2005, 06:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, it happened to a friend of mine. Lenticular wave clouds can form
with little, or no, warning. I've seen it happen. Of course, you can
believe otherwise and leave your T&B off. And maybe, just maybe, you
will be right.

Tom

 
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