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    beensoaring
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    So what is the latest on the availability of the Butterfly vario? Wonder if it will "fly" in any Uvalde WGC sailplanes?

    Also, will it deliver full featured or will the featurs dribble in over time?

    Sure would like to see something on YouTube including a sampling of the audio. How about it Butterfly Avionics?

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    Richard
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    On Jun 5, 7:50.am, beensoar...@.......... wrote:
    > So what is the latest on the availability of the Butterfly vario? Wonder if it will "fly" in any Uvalde WGC sailplanes?
    >
    > Also, will it deliver full featured or will the featurs dribble in over time?
    >
    > Sure would like to see something on YouTube including a sampling of the audio. How about it Butterfly Avionics?


    I was told today that I will have my order of Butterfly Varios shipped
    at the end of next week.

    http://www.craggyaero.com/butterfly.htm

    Richard
    www.craggyaero.com

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    David Reitter
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    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:52:32 PM UTC-4, Bruno wrote:

    > I took delivery of a V7 vario at this year's SSA
    > convention and have completely loved it! The V7 is beautiful, has a
    > fast and accurate response to lift, amazingly configurable, beautiful,
    > has tons of info available in such a compact package, and did I
    > mention enough that it is the most beautiful vario currently on the
    > market?


    I can only second that. I've only done a few flights with my new V7, but so far, it seems great. The backup navigation function and the FLARM display are nice to have.

    In addition to the above, it is an ideal hub to take in GPS data from a PowerFlarm or a logger and to distribute it to a PDA. It delivers airspeed, altitude and compensated vertical speed to my PDA running XCSoar and syncs the MC setting. For those flying with an upgradable, reliable and cost-effective PDA, the V7 seems like an ideal instrument that avoids feature duplication.

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    And I will second your second. Installed my V7 in the off season and have about 5 flights on it so I'm still learning, but I really like it. I really like the way it was fairly easy to install and the data sharing between my Nano, the V7 and my Oudie has worked great. Had a little problem with a recent firmware update until I figured out I had to go into one of the submenus of the Oudie (hardware) and "tell" the Oudie to look at the V7... Once I'd done that, the update was a snap.

    Question for my fellow V7 users..I'm interested in how you've set up the speed/vario displays...what info are you having it show you in the various modes, especially speed mode...arrival altitude? Also, I have left the default sound profile as the setup, but am not too keen on it. Anyone changed this to one they like better?

    If I had a wish list, it would be that I wish I could "temporarily" access some of the other wealth of data buried inside the vario...battery voltage, for example. I would not want to take up a display spot on the vario permanently showing that value, but it would be nice to have a user-selectable "sub-menu" of say...4 or 5 items that pushing a button the pilot could easily and rapidly cycle thru to check it as I fly. Now, it's a long period of heads-down cycling thru menus to pull that out of the V7...not the safest thing to do inflight. But if I could rapidly do it, that would be neat to have...but not a "need" by any measure...definitely a "want"!

    Good product, good company, happy camper!

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    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:24:19 PM UTC-5, RAS56 wrote:
    > And I will second your second. Installed my V7 in the off season and have about 5 flights on it so I'm still learning, but I really like it. I really like the way it was fairly easy to install and the data sharing between my Nano, the V7 and my Oudie has worked great. Had a little problem with a recent firmware update until I figured out I had to go into one of the submenus of the Oudie (hardware) and "tell" the Oudie to look at the V7... Once I'd done that, the update was a snap.
    >
    > Question for my fellow V7 users..I'm interested in how you've set up the speed/vario displays...what info are you having it show you in the various modes, especially speed mode...arrival altitude? Also, I have left the default sound profile as the setup, but am not too keen on it. Anyone changed this to one they like better?
    >
    > If I had a wish list, it would be that I wish I could "temporarily" access some of the other wealth of data buried inside the vario...battery voltage, for example. I would not want to take up a display spot on the vario permanently showing that value, but it would be nice to have a user-selectable "sub-menu" of say...4 or 5 items that pushing a button the pilot could easily and rapidly cycle thru to check it as I fly. Now, it's a long period of heads-down cycling thru menus to pull that out of the V7...not the safest thing to do inflight. But if I could rapidly do it, that would be neat to have...but not a "need" by any measure...definitely a "want"!
    >
    > Good product, good company, happy camper!


    you guys are killing me with your positive reviews of the V7!!! I already wanted one bad enough...

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    David Reitter
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    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:24:19 PM UTC-4, RAS56 wrote:

    > If I had a wish list, it would be that I wish I could "temporarily" access some of the other
    > wealth of data buried inside the vario...battery voltage, for example. I would not want to take up a display spot on the vario permanently showing that value, but it would be nice to have a user-selectable "sub-menu" of say....4 or 5 items that pushing a button the pilot could easily and rapidly cycle thru to check it as I fly.


    That's exactly what I'd like to have, too. You can't make use of the data when it isn't readily available. Generally, I can set up my PDA to show me the vario data, but if I'd like to use the vario as standby navigation instrument (e.g., "find my way home" function), I'd need to be able to switch to this without having to go into some configuration menu.

    When the "SC" button is set up as a momentary switch, it could reasonably cycle through modes. Or one could activate the info screen by holding the SC switch for a little longer.

    This sort of thing could be easily done via a software update, so here's hoping.

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    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:50:04 AM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
    > So what is the latest on the availability of the Butterfly vario? Wonder if it will "fly" in any Uvalde WGC sailplanes?
    >
    > Also, will it deliver full featured or will the featurs dribble in over time?
    >
    > Sure would like to see something on YouTube including a sampling of the audio. How about it Butterfly Avionics?


    Help...my thread is being hijacked! Can any of our euro friends comment on the Butterfly vario?

    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:50:04 AM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
    > So what is the latest on the availability of the Butterfly vario? Wonder if it will "fly" in any Uvalde WGC sailplanes?
    >
    > Also, will it deliver full featured or will the featurs dribble in over time?
    >
    > Sure would like to see something on YouTube including a sampling of the audio. How about it Butterfly Avionics?


    On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:50:04 AM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
    > So what is the latest on the availability of the Butterfly vario? Wonder if it will "fly" in any Uvalde WGC sailplanes?
    >
    > Also, will it deliver full featured or will the featurs dribble in over time?
    >
    > Sure would like to see something on YouTube including a sampling of the audio. How about it Butterfly Avionics?

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    RAS56
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    On Wednesday, June 6, 2012 5:39:56 AM UTC+9, David Reitter wrote:
    > On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:24:19 PM UTC-4, RAS56 wrote:
    >
    > > If I had a wish list, it would be that I wish I could "temporarily" access some of the other
    > > wealth of data buried inside the vario...battery voltage, for example. I would not want to take up a display spot on the vario permanently showing that value, but it would be nice to have a user-selectable "sub-menu" of say...4 or 5 items that pushing a button the pilot could easily and rapidly cycle thru to check it as I fly.

    >
    > That's exactly what I'd like to have, too. You can't make use of the data when it isn't readily available. Generally, I can set up my PDA to show me the vario data, but if I'd like to use the vario as standby navigation instrument (e.g., "find my way home" function), I'd need to be able to switch to this without having to go into some configuration menu.
    >


    David,

    Go here:

    http://www.lxnav.com/contact.html

    And chime in. I just did...and as responsive, tuned in to the market and savvy as these folks have been with their products, I'm expecting good things to happen! Will let all know if I hear something back.

    TONY- to quote a tired slogan.." Just Do It!" You won't regret it! Mongo likes V7!!

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    David Reitter
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    On Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:24:15 PM UTC-4, David A wrote:

    > 1. It has a built-in G-meter. Can it use it to change from cruise to
    > thermal mode automatically (like the LNAV) instead of a manual switch?


    You can switch automatically, though this is based on IAS (configurable threshold).

    > 2. What about vector wind calculations and headwind component? (again,
    > like the LNAV).


    What about it?
    I believe that wind is used to calculate arrival altitude (because, as per manual, it can be set manually when GPS is unavailable), but wind direction and strength are not displayed. I think this makes sense as these values won't be available individually without an accurate compass, which the V7 does not have.

    Despite the wealth of data, I would classify the V7 as a vario, not a primary (in the practical sense) navigation instrument. And it's a fantastic vario at that. A PDA with the right software will do the best job calculating wind and integrating the data with task and terrain.

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    I Emailed LxNav and Uros replied they are looking at our suggestion of adding a user selectable sub menu of choices. How to pull up the data is the question; David, I used your suggestion about using the SC switch, hopefully they'll use that or something similar.

    Very quick response from them....great products and great customer service! A pleasure doing business with folks that have those attributes!

    RAS56

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