(Part 2) Holiwood Nights May 24, 2008

Wow, it's a long TR here too! lol

Edwardo wrote:
>
> I hope that Holiday World revises their policies on Enthusiast
> Events. I had a nice time, but it was mired by what I felt was
> severely unfair treatment to my friends.

To be honest, I opted out of attending this event after hearing about
the treatment of attendees over the past two years. And sure enough,
Cindy called me from Holiday World and said she went to get some
aspirin from her car and saw Steve Nuss (a friend and former RRC
poster) in the parking lot with a group of friends. He told her he
was asked to take a breathalyzer test and he agreed since he'd only
had one drink before going to the park and knew he wasn't drunk. He
told her he registered .055, which is well under the legal limit for
intoxication, and was still asked to leave the park, merely because
they said they smelled alcohol.

I haven't spoken to Steve since then, so I have no idea if what Cindy
said is true, but she is never one to exaagerate when recalling
events, and I find it appalling. I went to Busch Gardens a few months
ago where they actually give away beer in beer gardens. Personally I
hate beer and rarely even drink, but imagine the reaction of patrons
if they were to encounter a Holiday World employee demanding they take
a field sobriety test. If you don't want to sell beer, fine, if you
don't want drunks in your park, fine, but for Pete's sake, so stop
being so angry at everyone.

Frankly, after hearing about past atttendees being treated poorly, and
this author's account of his friend being written up for not having
his feet perfectly flat on the floor, Holiday World sounds like a
place where you're made to feel uncomfortable and paranoid, and that's
not how I want to spend my vacation. I know Cindy won't be going back
and I won't either, I don't care how good their coasters are. When
you threaten to throw someone out for resting their feet one inch off
the floor, you've lost your mind.

MarkinArk

On Jun 8, 9:15�pm, "BaSSiStiSt" <dreadpirateb...@**************> wrote:
As much as I love to ride Voyage, I'd honestly rather spend my money
to go
to an event where I and other enthusiasts are made to feel welcome,
and not
given the guilty-until-proven-innocent treatment.




Did someone say CAC? :)
I'm ready to take the reigns again if no one else is going to do
anything.

Kevin

I never understood the whole HW, Raven, Legend thing you all seem to
have. I've been to the park many times trying to get it and I don't.
But, I had never attended SRM, never had the much talked about 1 click
rides. Then Voyage came along, and HWN (gotta have events to get
those much desired Golden Tickets) and I started to get it, but not
completely.

When I've attended events at other parks I haven't had 2-3 different
people check my restraints, I haven't been yelled at for talking to
friends while going up a lift hill, I've never had friends get written
up for not having their feet placed flat on the floor, and I've
certainly never seen someone wrongly accused/banned from the park.

The person who was wrongly accused/ banned last year did contact the
park, HW said that their decision stands.

On Jun 11, 11:22 pm, "Bill Buckley"
<w.buckl...@verizon.forgetaboutit.com> wrote:
>  I
> personally give
> the park credit for even HAVING "enthusiasts" event after the accident.  

Why? HWN is a pure business decision. The Golden Ticket awards are
far-reaching FREE advertising, it is much easier for a park to attain
Golden Tickets if they hold events and cater to the people who award
them.

> I'm not in any way proposing a witch hunt against Holiday World, I'm just
> stating I'm fed up personally and I'm spending my cash to go to
Schlittercon
> next year.

Side note: I'm going to Schittercon, too. Word has it that HWN is moving
off the holiday weekend in 09.

On Jun 11, 11:54 pm, "Bill Buckley"
<w.buckl...@verizon.forgetaboutit.com> wrote:
> > I'm not in any way proposing a witch hunt against Holiday World, I'm just
> > stating I'm fed up personally and I'm spending my cash to go to
> Schlittercon
> > next year.
>
> Side note: I'm going to Schittercon, too.  Word has it that HWN is moving
> off the holiday weekend in 09.

There goes Schlittercon...

-R

On Jun 14, 12:00 am, "Marko" <onhisown...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  If
> there really is a serious concern that enthusiasts represent more of
> a threat than a benefit to the business, then you'd think they'd
> stop having events.  It gets down to trust, and no question it was
> broken, and no question it's hard to restore in any kind of
> relationship.
> Mark

They have to have events if they want the people who vote on the
golden tickets to vote for HW.

Exactly how was their trust broken??? I am so tired of being made to
feel like we, as enthusiasts, did something to damage HW. And I'm
even more tired of the enthusiasts who have taken it upon themselves
to try to make up to HW for something we DID NOT do. I did not attend
the ill-fated SRM and I have never tried to defeat a restraint.