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Old 10th June 2007, 09:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Chainlift wrote:

> What if B&M could retrofit Dueling Dragons to Flying Trains to create
> the first B&M dueling flying coaster? It could be rethemed to a
> Quidditch game with broomsticks et all. Does anyone think that would
> actually work?


But the impact is in the "face forward view". The flyers never really
face forward they face the ground.

They would need a full redo of the station and the cost of trains. If
they are putting that kind of dough into the 'new area', I doubt they
would put 'more money' into dragons than necessary, at most it might be
in the re-theme and possible re-purposing of the queue at best.

> I am not sure I would really want to give up one of my favorite
> inverted coasters (fire) to see it but after my rides on Tatsu I
> wonder just how intense Fire might be in the flying position. It
> would also be very interesting to have a flyer that interacts with
> another coaster. The spin near the sky tower that Tatsu does makes
> for a very nice moment.
>
> Thoughts?


It's nice to entertain the thought, but I doubt it would happen.
Might be interesting to doing Ice as flyer leaving Fire (usually
recognized as better) inverted.



--CM
 
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Old 10th June 2007, 11:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Andrew Brawley" wrote:
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> I can't see how a conversion like that would be possible with the existing
> track. I wouldn't want to ride an outside looping flyer unless the loop

was
> specifically designed for that position. I don't know if even that would

be
> possible with the current trains and their restraint design. It sounds
> pretty unpleasant and potentially dangerous to me. I like breathing.


Andrew's right -- there is no simple conversion here! The g-forces are all
wrong for flyer cars. Can you imagine the readings on a flyer car, say,
exiting the clothoid loop? Can only imagine...

That's like back in the day when -- in an effort to design the world's first
looping suspended -- Arrow took their 1975 corkscrew element, turn the track
around the other way, and put their suspended cars on it. They forgot to
realize the g's on the "inside" of that track do NOT equal the g's on the
"outside" of the track! Rumor has it the accelerometer spiked at +12.0?!

Whatever -- same scenario applies here.


 
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Montu wrote:

> The ride is not going to be changed to a flying coaster. There's not
> even a remote possiblity of that. Imagination is all well and good - I
> won't knock that but don't get your hopes up at all.


Agreed.

However, it'd be hilarious for someone to determine the G's that would
be exerted on the body in a prone position on the ride, as is.

Dave
 
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On Jun 10, 11:04 pm, "Bill Buckley"
<w.buckl...@verizon.forgetaboutit.com> wrote:

> That's like back in the day when -- in an effort to design the world's first
> looping suspended -- Arrow took their 1975 corkscrew element, turn the track
> around the other way, and put their suspended cars on it. They forgot to
> realize the g's on the "inside" of that track do NOT equal the g's on the
> "outside" of the track! Rumor has it the accelerometer spiked at +12.0?!


Worse, the car snapped right off and hit a nearby building. They used
the regular suspended cars (free swing), not the rigid ones that
Vekoma developed.

 
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