When RVing, Leave Home (And TV) At Home Where It Belongs.

I see occasional questions in the group regarding about satelllite TV
problems in RVs and find it rather odd that it's a topic of discussion
at all in relation to RVs. It brings to my mind the following
questions:

1--Isn't the main idea of Rving to travel to places different from
home to enjoy different things than one enjoys at home and to see
natural scenery of the outdoors usually not available at home?

2--Why would someone pay between $4.00 and $5.00 a gallon for gasoline
so they could travel to a campsite they'd also have to pay for and
then sit on a couch and watch TV---something they could have done at
home without the expense? Rather illogical, one might think.

3--For those that say the TV is for the kids, isn't that just a
copout, employing an electronic babysitter when its the parents
responsibility to guide and instruct those kids into new experiences
they cannot find at home?

4--Are some so addicted to the boob tube they cannot even leave it
behind for a supposed vacation?

When we go RVing, camping, vacationing, whatever you choose to call
it, the idea is "get away from it all" and "take a break" from the
routine so we don't drag it along behind us. No TV, no radio, no
newspapers, no cell phone calls...just the enjoyment of the outdoors
and a respite from the routine.

Sometimes we haven't even decided which direction we're going to go
til we leave the driveway, keeping the spontaneity of the sense of
escapism intact. Try it some time. You'll be amazed at the
relaxation (which truly IS the purpose of a vacation) you'll feel
without all that "organization," "planning," "timetable rigidity" and
dragging all the habits of homes along behind that many employ when
they're "relaxing." Just a thought...

C.C.

On Jul 5, 12:40 am, "Pepperoni" <wastebasket...@m> wrote:
> "C.C." <caroline-coll...@lycos.com> wrote in message


> Have a nice trip.  Enjoy yourself doing as you please.
> Your neighbors in the camp deserve the same rights.  To some, the joy of
> "getting away" means watching the news or the ball game without the grand
> kids under foot, the phone ringing or in-laws dropping in uninvited.

Then a suggestion might go and hide out in the back lot at WalMart
which solves all of the problems you mentioned without the excessive
gas cost and campground fees. One of my points was exactly that. Why
spend all that money to travel to a beautiful locale just to do the
same thing you could do at home or nearby for nothing?

> Nobody really cares if you use a tv or not;  I just wonder why you should be
> so upset about somebody else's business.
> Pepperoni

Actually, it was never a question of whether or not "anybody cared"
whether we use a TV or not so your statement is basically
meaningless. And you don't have to "wonder" anything because no one
here is "upset about somebody else's business." To be upset, one has
to be emotionally involved, much like your response, whereas I was
only offering alternatives to stay true to the commonly accepted
concept of a vacation and am not "upset" in the tiniest bit.. I could
really care less what Pepperoni does when he leaves home. If he wants
to blow a wad of money on gasoline and camping fees just so he can
shut the door of his RV, sit on the couch and watch a ball game a
hundred miles from home in a beautiful area of nature, then it's his
money to waste.

C.C.

"C.C." <caroline-collins@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:2a0447d3-02ec-47dd-bb64-dbe8a35440e9@x35g2000hsb..com...
>I see occasional questions in the group regarding about satelllite TV
> problems in RVs and find it rather odd that it's a topic of discussion
> at all in relation to RVs. It brings to my mind the following
> questions:
>
> 1--Isn't the main idea of Rving to travel to places different from
> home to enjoy different things than one enjoys at home and to see
> natural scenery of the outdoors usually not available at home?
>
> 2--Why would someone pay between $4.00 and $5.00 a gallon for gasoline
> so they could travel to a campsite they'd also have to pay for and
> then sit on a couch and watch TV---something they could have done at
> home without the expense? Rather illogical, one might think.
>
> 3--For those that say the TV is for the kids, isn't that just a
> copout, employing an electronic babysitter when its the parents
> responsibility to guide and instruct those kids into new experiences
> they cannot find at home?
>
> 4--Are some so addicted to the boob tube they cannot even leave it
> behind for a supposed vacation?
>
> When we go RVing, camping, vacationing, whatever you choose to call
> it, the idea is "get away from it all" and "take a break" from the
> routine so we don't drag it along behind us. No TV, no radio, no
> newspapers, no cell phone calls...just the enjoyment of the outdoors
> and a respite from the routine.
>
> Sometimes we haven't even decided which direction we're going to go
> til we leave the driveway, keeping the spontaneity of the sense of
> escapism intact. Try it some time. You'll be amazed at the
> relaxation (which truly IS the purpose of a vacation) you'll feel
> without all that "organization," "planning," "timetable rigidity" and
> dragging all the habits of homes along behind that many employ when
> they're "relaxing." Just a thought...
>
> C.C.

I've wondered the same thing several times while camping. Motor homes drive
in, set up and you don't see anyone around them. However, you do hear a TV,
a noisy generator going on and off, and one sided cellphone conversations
emanating from inside. Maybe it's just the "thought" they're away from home
that they like. Then again some campgrounds are such that it's hard to enjoy
camaraderie with others due to screaming kids running through the campsites,
couples arguing, barking dogs or worse.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:56:06 -0700 (PDT), "C.C."
<caroline-collins@lycos.com> wrote:

>I see occasional questions in the group regarding about satelllite TV
>problems in RVs and find it rather odd that it's a topic of discussion
>at all in relation to RVs. It brings to my mind the following
>questions:
>
>1--Isn't the main idea of Rving to travel to places different from
>home to enjoy different things than one enjoys at home and to see
>natural scenery of the outdoors usually not available at home?
>
>2--Why would someone pay between $4.00 and $5.00 a gallon for gasoline
>so they could travel to a campsite they'd also have to pay for and
>then sit on a couch and watch TV---something they could have done at
>home without the expense? Rather illogical, one might think.
>
>3--For those that say the TV is for the kids, isn't that just a
>copout, employing an electronic babysitter when its the parents
>responsibility to guide and instruct those kids into new experiences
>they cannot find at home?
>
>4--Are some so addicted to the boob tube they cannot even leave it
>behind for a supposed vacation?
>
>When we go RVing, camping, vacationing, whatever you choose to call
>it, the idea is "get away from it all" and "take a break" from the
>routine so we don't drag it along behind us. No TV, no radio, no
>newspapers, no cell phone calls...just the enjoyment of the outdoors
>and a respite from the routine.
>
>Sometimes we haven't even decided which direction we're going to go
>til we leave the driveway, keeping the spontaneity of the sense of
>escapism intact. Try it some time. You'll be amazed at the
>relaxation (which truly IS the purpose of a vacation) you'll feel
>without all that "organization," "planning," "timetable rigidity" and
>dragging all the habits of homes along behind that many employ when
>they're "relaxing." Just a thought...
>
>C.C.

Well, here's another thought. Ya can't have too many.

When you are traveling, you are "taking a break" from your life.
Leaving it behind. When some of the rest of us travel, we are
living our lives. Catching up with it.

When the extraordinary becomes ordinary, the ordinary becomes
extraordinary. And round we go again.

The point is freedom to do what you want. To watch TV. Or take
a walk. To climb a mountain. Or sit and talk.

Or even play on the computer. One man's waste is another man's
wahoo.

Bob

On Jul 5, 6:42 am, Bob Giddings <b...@escapees.com> wrote:

> Well, here's another thought.  Ya can't have too many.
> When you are traveling, you are "taking a break" from your life.
> Leaving it behind.  When some of the rest of us travel, we are
> living our lives.  Catching up with it.
> When the extraordinary becomes ordinary, the ordinary becomes
> extraordinary.  And round we go again.
> The point is freedom to do what you want.  To watch TV.  Or take
> a walk.  To climb a mountain.  Or sit and talk.
> Or even play on the computer.  One man's waste is another man's
> wahoo.

> Bob-

OMG, an actual thinking man's response and well stated as well.

C.C.

On Jul 5, 7:27 am, "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-
ztopz...@> wrote:
> "C.C." <caroline-coll...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2a0447d3-02ec-47dd-bb64-dbe8a35440e9@x35g2000hsb..com...
>
> >I see occasional questions in the group regarding about satelllite TV
> > problems in RVs and find it rather odd that it's a topic of discussion
> > at all in relation to RVs.  It brings to my mind the following
> > questions:
>
> > 1--Isn't the main idea of Rving to travel to places different from
> > home to enjoy different things than one enjoys at home and to see
> > natural scenery of the outdoors usually not available at home?
>
>       No, that's one idea. There are many others. Some folks use RVs for
> business travel. Others use RVs to facilitate their hobbies, such as:
> skiing, snowmobiles, ATVs, fishing, boating, dog sledding, hunting, many
> different types of racing, etc, etc, etc. For some folks RVs are just a
> comfortable way to get from one place to another.

Exactly, then they are no longer an "R" V, just a glorified SUV with a
toilet.

> > 2--Why would someone pay between $4.00 and $5.00 a gallon for gasoline
> > so they could travel to a campsite they'd also have to pay for and
> > then sit on a couch and watch TV---something they could have done at
> > home without the expense?  Rather illogical, one might think.


>       This reminds me of a group backpacking trip for young teens that I
> helped lead. I promoted the idea of not having a campfire one night. Except
> for me, everyone just went to sleep for lack of stimulation. For some folks
> the TV is an electronic campfire.

HaHaHa, what a sad state to be in when a TV becomes your Tylenol PM/
Nuk sleep aid! Truly funny!

> TB

On Jul 5, 8:48 am, Hunter <airstreamingy...@geemail.com> wrote:

> Has it occurred to you that not all RVers are vacationing or camping?
> Those of us who live in our RVs want to have all the comforts of home.
> Hunter

Of course it has, except for one smalll detail. If one "lives" in a
unit they call an RV, it's called a house, not an RV and therefore
they are not living in their RV...technically an impossibility if one
utilizes basic definitions. If you ignore that, then it's basically
no different than someone living in a 1200 square foot 3-bedroom, 2-
bath ranch style house on 10 acres calling their house an RV.

It's either a home OR and RV. Can't have it both ways. If you say
your home is an RV, then THE SAME EXACT CREDIBILITY must be given to
the statement that the home on the 10 acres is also an RV.

See previous definitions of "recreation" and "vehicle" for
clarification and correctness.

C.C.

On Jul 5, 10:57 am, nothermark <notherm...@not.here> wrote:

>When we are not home it means we don't have to worry about all the chores undone.  It doesn't mean we withdraw from life.
> nothermark

No one said anything about "withdrawing from life, just practicing
"recreation," (a diversity from the usual). Another "over-the-top"
emotion-based response. Geez, does anyone think and/or respond on a
cerebral level anymore?

C.C.

On Jul 5, 11:31 am, "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-
ztopz...@>
>      So wadda' ya' think? Are you going to get you one of those cute little
> pop-up trailers for your bike or stay in motels or both or what?
> TB

My man's cousin bought one of those Honda Gold Wings (I know, it's a
rice-grinder, not the real thing) with the "tricycle" option (two
wheels in back) and he pulls a little Aliner behind it. Guess that
qualifies as an RV (as long as they don't live in it full time...lol).

C.C.

On Jul 5, 12:51 pm, "Bruce S" <bruce.sn...@> wrote:
> "C.C." <caroline-coll...@lycos.com> wrote
>
> And, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought "camping" and "RVing" were
> essentially the same thing, like taking an RV (i.e. motorhome,
> trailer, tent trailer, pickup camper, etc.) to either a private, state
> or forest service campground or dispersed camping along the side of
> the road or at WalMart, etc.  And the usual idea behind these trips is
> to see something or experience things "different" from those that are
> commonly found at home like a beach, forest, lake to fish in, unusual
> geographical phenomena, etc., none of which require a television.
>
> C.C.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You are wrong.  That may be what TVing is for you, but you are not everyone.
> Different people RV in different ways and for different reasons.  I live in
> my MH full time - I DON'T camp.  Several years ago, I lived in a tent for
> three years (full time), and have no plans for ever camping again.  I use
> the RV as a combination home/hotel room/mode of transportation.  When I want
> to go visit my daughter, I drive the MH, set it up in her driveway, and
> visit.  I want all the comforts of home, and take them with me.  Same thing
> when I travel to Mexico, Phoenix, or anywhere else I may chose to go.  Just
> because you camp, does not mean everyone who RVs is camping.
>
> Bruce

Then, as I've said many times, you do not have a true "Recreational"
Vehicle, you just have a glorified SUV with a toilet, bed, shower,
etc. And get off this thing about camping being different from
RVing...they are exssentially the same thing when you eliminate those,
like yourself, who are not really RVing, but just moving from place to
place in a little mini portable home, no different than taking your
own motel room along with you instead of paying someone else to use
theirs.
C.C.