RV: Rear Tire Balance

[Paul Flansburg]

Hi All,

Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.

Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
others have been told this.

-paul

[will]

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Paul Flansburg
<paul.flansburg@***********m> wrote:

>Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
>question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
>disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
>rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
>tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>
>Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
>with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
>another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
>others have been told this.

Do ya really want to know what other have been TOLD, or do ya want the
Right Answer?

If you want a smooth ride, ALL tires/wheels will be round and
balanced. Balance is at least as important on duals as on any other
wheel. A conscientious dealer will demonstrate that each tire is out
of round less than maybe 1/8" and that the mounted assembly is
balanced. The admitted fact that some dealers either don't do this
well or even at all does not make it a good idea.

And while you're at it, make sure you inflate to the CORRECT pressure
for the actual loading. You do know about inflation charts, right?

Will Sill
"Votes can be bought,
Respect can only be earned."

[Paul Flansburg]

Hi All,

Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.

Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
others have been told this.

-paul

[Paul Flansburg]

On Apr 26, 8:45*am, w...@epix.net wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Paul Flansburg
>
> <paul.flansb...@***********m> wrote:
> >Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
> >question. *When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
> >disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
> >rear tire's since they were dually's. *He stated that in his 45yrs of
> >tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>
> >Any thoughts? *I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
> >with trucks and busses. *The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
> >another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
> >others have been told this.
>
> Do ya really want to know what other have been TOLD, or do ya want the
> Right Answer?
>
> If you want a smooth ride, ALL tires/wheels will be round and
> balanced. *Balance is at least as important on duals as on any other
> wheel. * A conscientious dealer will demonstrate that each tire is out
> of round less than maybe 1/8" and that the mounted assembly is
> balanced. *The admitted fact that some dealers either don't do this
> well or even at all does not make it a good idea.
>
> And while you're at it, make sure you inflate to the CORRECT pressure
> for the actual loading. * You do know about inflation charts, right?
>
> Will Sill
> "Votes can be bought,
> Respect can only be earned."

Yes, after loading the coach I have it weighted. For there I will
consult with the inflation charts for the correct inflation.

Just for clarification, ALL TIRES will be balanced. Just looking to
hear others experience because I never heard of this practice before.
I suppose dump trucks don't really care if the rear tires are balanced
or not.

Oh, and sorry for the double post. Must have sent it twice by
accident.

-paul

[Lone Haranguer]

Paul Flansburg wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
> question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
> disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
> rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
> tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>
> Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
> with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
> another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
> others have been told this.
>
> -paul

I always have mine balanced although the last set I added, the dealer
inserted some kind of powder which claims to balance tires as you drive.

I haven't been inside the tire but this stuff seems to work and I have
no complaints.
LZ

[Paul Flansburg]

On Apr 26, 8:35*am, Paul Flansburg <paul.flansb...@***********m> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
> question. *When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
> disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
> rear tire's since they were dually's. *He stated that in his 45yrs of
> tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>
> Any thoughts? *I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
> with trucks and busses. *The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
> another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
> others have been told this.
>
> -paul

Thank you for the reply's. Sounds like no one has had this question
asked before. Tire's are going on this Thursday. All tires will be
balanced. I going to end up with Hankook AH11 tires. They will run
me about $1500 total for all 6. Can't see spending the extra money
for the Goodyears, although I went almost 10yrs and 45K on the
G159's. We will most likly trade the coach in a year or two so the
extra $400 to $500 is best in my pocket then the tire guy's.

-paul

[Lone Haranguer]

Paul Flansburg wrote:
> On Apr 26, 8:35 am, Paul Flansburg <paul.flansb...@***********m> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
>> question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
>> disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
>> rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
>> tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>>
>> Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
>> with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
>> another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
>> others have been told this.
>>
>> -paul
>
> Thank you for the reply's. Sounds like no one has had this question
> asked before. Tire's are going on this Thursday. All tires will be
> balanced. I going to end up with Hankook AH11 tires. They will run
> me about $1500 total for all 6. Can't see spending the extra money
> for the Goodyears, although I went almost 10yrs and 45K on the
> G159's. We will most likly trade the coach in a year or two so the
> extra $400 to $500 is best in my pocket then the tire guy's.
>
> -paul

I have had very good service from Hankook tires and would buy them again
in a heartbeat.
LZ

[AJ]

Lone Haranguer wrote:

>> Thank you for the reply's. Sounds like no one has had this question
>> asked before. Tire's are going on this Thursday. All tires will be
>> balanced. I going to end up with Hankook AH11 tires. They will run
>> me about $1500 total for all 6. Can't see spending the extra money
>> for the Goodyears, although I went almost 10yrs and 45K on the
>> G159's. We will most likly trade the coach in a year or two so the
>> extra $400 to $500 is best in my pocket then the tire guy's.
>>
>> -paul
>
> I have had very good service from Hankook tires and would buy them again
> in a heartbeat.
> LZ

Let me add an ME TOO ! got them on our Winnie now ... about 5k
on them and have had no problems. Cost for them was about what you found.

--
Jim & Barb - Not all those who wander are lost

[Andy Asberry]

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Paul Flansburg
<paul.flansburg@***********m> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Well, I'm buying new tires for my coach next week and have a
>question. When talking with the service manager about pricing, mount/
>disposal/balance, he mentioned that it wasn't nessecary to balance the
>rear tire's since they were dually's. He stated that in his 45yrs of
>tire experience that he had never balanced the rear dual tire's.
>
>Any thoughts? I think a majority of his tire experience has to do
>with trucks and busses. The cost to balance the rear wheels will be
>another $80, not really a concern, but I'm interested in knowing if
>others have been told this.
>
>-paul

Hankook is a Korean company. Like every other manufacturer, they have
good and not so good tire lines.

Balance the rear tires.

Forget about Equal. Ask yourself why they have different weight
packages for different size tires. What if your tire is more out of
balance than what the package weighs? Why not put a larger package in?
If it was too much weight, wouldn't it balance out?

We tried it by computer balancing 3/4 ton tires then adding a 1 ounce
weight to make it out of balance. Added the Equal granules and checked
the balance again. It was all over the place, never balanced.

I think praises for miracle balancers are like miracle oil additives.
No guy wants to admit he was suckered into buying a problem vehicle,
unnecessary product or wrong wife... for a while.

If someone wants an Equal injector, they can have mine for the
shipping.

--Andy Asberry--
--Texas--
42 years in the commercial tire business

[will]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:10:32 -0500, Andy Asberry <aasberry@********>
wrote:


>Hankook is a Korean company. Like every other manufacturer, they have
>good and not so good tire lines.
>
>Balance the rear tires.
>
>Forget about Equal. Ask yourself why they have different weight
>packages for different size tires. What if your tire is more out of
>balance than what the package weighs? Why not put a larger package in?
>If it was too much weight, wouldn't it balance out?
>
>We tried it by computer balancing 3/4 ton tires then adding a 1 ounce
>weight to make it out of balance. Added the Equal granules and checked
>the balance again. It was all over the place, never balanced.
>
>I think praises for miracle balancers are like miracle oil additives.
>No guy wants to admit he was suckered into buying a problem vehicle,
>unnecessary product or wrong wife... for a while.
>
>If someone wants an Equal injector, they can have mine for the
>shipping.
>
>
>--Andy Asberry--
>--Texas--
>42 years in the commercial tire business

I trust this kind of advice far more than testimonials from suckers
who've bought (and then feel compelled to defend) a wide variety of
miracle products.

Even though some people seem really happy with powders and ball
bearings to balance their tires, I'm definitely with Andy on this. A
round tire correctly balanced and inflated wil run a very long time
without contributing vibration and suspension problems.

But if you just BELIEVE in K&N air filters, goofy aftermarket gadgets
to keep yer bulgemobile from wandering, or classic deer whistles and
fuel magnets, by all means put your money in circulation. Better to
give it to a con man at Auto Zone than the Marxist con man in DC.

Will Sill
"Votes can be bought,
Respect can only be earned."