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Old 12th July 2008, 09:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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<Anna.Marek6969@**********> wrote in message
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> This could make for lots more sidewalk eating at tables, nice.


There's nothing like lunch with bus and truck exhaust hitting you from the
next lane.
The LL11 Sheds lining Broadway don't help the atmosphere, either.

I've been watching preparation for this out my office window for a couple of
days -- and it may be interesting. But I think that to make it work, they'd
have to close the street to all traffic.

As for me, I'll stick with lunch in Bryant Park.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie


 
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Old 13th July 2008, 11:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On Jul 12, 10:03 pm, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> <Anna.Marek6...@**********> wrote in message
>
> news:1b70ccea-94e8-4ed9-a6e8-2bda283be864@k30g2000hse.************.com...
>
> > This could make for lots more sidewalk eating at tables, nice.

>
> There's nothing like lunch with bus and truck exhaust hitting you from the
> next lane.
> The LL11 Sheds lining Broadway don't help the atmosphere, either.
>
> I've been watching preparation for this out my office window for a couple of
> days -- and it may be interesting. But I think that to make it work, they'd
> have to close the street to all traffic.
>
> As for me, I'll stick with lunch in Bryant Park.


The Herald Square triangle seems pretty popular, though.
 
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Old 13th July 2008, 12:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"Bolwerk" <no@way.org2> wrote in message news:HNydnaO18cj8F-

>> That didn't work the last three times!

>
> What didn't? Narrowing streets will probably discourage traffic.
>
> Even if it doesn't, at least there will be fewer cars clogging Broadway,
> which should still mean less smog.


I don't think there will be fewer cars at all. There are dedicated turn
lanes as well -- and by the looks of things, I suspect traffic will move far
more smoothly than under the free-f-r-all system that has existed since
Broadway became a one-way street.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie



 
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Old 14th July 2008, 07:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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> Why don't you walk the 8 blocks and report on exactly what occupies
> the street-level spaces in each building?


I'm there every day -- there are lots of Delis that will do much better
business if the idea of sitting at tables in the street for lunch takes off.
The Starbucks will [both] do okay.

And who would drive to Times Square to visit an Office Max or a Duane Reade
or all those bank branches?

If anyone tells you that restricting traffic on this stretch will hurt
business, you might suggest they hop on their saucer and go back to their
own planet.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie


 
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Old 14th July 2008, 08:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Jul 14, 9:45 pm, Bolwerk <n...@way.org2> wrote:
> J.R.Guthrie wrote:
> >> Why don't you walk the 8 blocks and report on exactly what occupies
> >> the street-level spaces in each building?

>
> > I'm there every day -- there are lots of Delis that will do much better
> > business if the idea of sitting at tables in the street for lunch takes off.
> > The Starbucks will [both] do okay.

>
> > And who would drive to Times Square to visit an Office Max or a Duane Reade
> > or all those bank branches?

>
> > If anyone tells you that restricting traffic on this stretch will hurt
> > business, you might suggest they hop on their saucer and go back to their
> > own planet.

>
> It seems to me the scheme may even attract businesses that would feed
> off the idea, like restaurants that want outside dining and art/craft types.
>
> Of course, the city could do well to get rid of its silly prohibition on
> open containers in public.


Are you aware that it's pretty difficult to get a permit to set up
tables outside a restaurant? They can't just set them up on the
sidewalk if they feel like it. In a high-traffic area, I bet it's
really tough to get a permit.

Chris
 
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Old 15th July 2008, 02:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Jul 15, 9:12 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> I am using an inexpensive keyboard plugged into a laptop, and its u
> and y keys require extra pressure, so sometimes those letters are
> skipped in typing.


Then use your boyfriends' Linux box more often.

Or has Peter been a bad 'bottom?'
 
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