expired MetroCard shenanigans

I tried to get on at 42nd & Sixth and got the message "Already
Expired" and at the agent's booth "Expired 6/30/08" and value
something like $38.25 (which is impossible; it has had an exact, odd
number of dollars since my free PATH SmartCard finally arrived in the
mail more than a month after I requested it).

The agent was unable to transfer the balance to a new card!

He admitted me through the service gate.

At 74th & Roosevelt, the agent was able to transfer the actual $35
value to a new card -- which is green, not blue, on "gold" -- and
couildn't say why it hadn't worked at another station; a passenger
behind me said the same thing had happened to him.

I haven't added value since the fare went up on March 2 -- on March 1
I added as much as the machine would allow me to, with the 20% instead
of 15% bonus, and it was rather more than the supposed limit of $80.

On Jul 11, 7:34 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:
>
> If you were ever in the same room with me, you wouldn't get anywhere
> near enough to find out about any "smell" or lack thereof.

You forgot to add, "By Jimmeny!"

I've heard that you'll hurl your walker at someone, miss, then fall
over while wondering what happened to your walker.

"Passenger rail has nothing to do with any transit topic!"
Petey "Expired" Daniels

[every time I post on a nyc.transit topic, little potty-mouth anna
kortlander instantly derails the thread. I'll try this one again.]

I tried to get on at 42nd & Sixth and got the message "Already
Expired" and at the agent's booth "Expired 6/30/08" and value
something like $38.25 (which is impossible; it has had an exact, odd
number of dollars since my free PATH SmartCard finally arrived in the
mail more than a month after I requested it).

The agent was unable to transfer the balance to a new card!


He admitted me through the service gate.


At 74th & Roosevelt, the agent was able to transfer the actual $35
value to a new card -- which is green, not blue, on "gold" -- and
couildn't say why it hadn't worked at another station; a passenger
behind me said the same thing had happened to him.


I haven't added value since the fare went up on March 2 -- on March 1
I added as much as the machine would allow me to, with the 20%
instead
of 15% bonus, and it was rather more than the supposed limit of $80.

On Jul 12, 8:27 pm, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote in message
> news:870a343b-8bd2-4d12-b821-
>
>
>
> > No, $80 gave you a $16 bonus ...
>
> Before the fare increase. $90 would give you $108 -- which also wouldn't
> work.
>
> In any case, why not get two cards and put $60 on each or somesuch? Or three
> or four? I mean, if the difference between 20% and 15% is a big deal, get
> dozens. After all, you can't get that kind return putting it in the bank,
> can you?

Some persons -- not including you, evidently -- have limited
resources.

> I did multiple cards for high amounts before the fare increase myself, but
> now use the Xpress card which is the transit equivalent of an EZ Pass.
>
> > And you're also so ignorant that you don't know it can't be done while
> > the train is moving any more.
>
> Well you **can**. And people do it daily -- even moreso on the R160s
> becasue the doors are unlocked. You just don't want to do it front of a cop
> with an attitude.

On Jul 12, 10:41 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 8:27 pm, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> > "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote in message
> > news:870a343b-8bd2-4d12-b821-
>
> > > No, $80 gave you a $16 bonus ...
>
> > Before the fare increase. $90 would give you $108 -- which also wouldn't
> > work.
>
> > In any case, why not get two cards and put $60 on each or somesuch? Or three
> > or four? I mean, if the difference between 20% and 15% is a big deal, get
> > dozens. After all, you can't get that kind return putting it in the bank,
> > can you?
>
> Some persons -- not including you, evidently -- have limited
> resources.

The whole thread is about a fake question from Petey to indicate he
doesn't get the senior citizen half-fare cards. He does.

<furles@mail.croydon.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:090534fa-3a32-477c-9fac-bddf821f9b64@l42g2000hsc.************.com...

> Why if you pay your bus fare in cash can you not transfer to the
> subway, but if you pay the same fare with a Metrocard you can? Are
> the MTA trying to get people away from paying by cash? This is
> certainly the case in Lodon, where the cash fare on buses is now two
> pounds, but only 90p when paid by Oyster card.

Yes -- handling coins costs money; many people use credit cards for Metro
Cards, which puts the cost on a different budget line than personnel <g>.

You'll also note that if your Metro Card only has $1.75 left on it and you
pay the extra 25 cents on a bus, it will not be good entering the subway.
There's no transfer if you're paying cash.
>
> Why is the PATH Quickcard still available from NJ Transit machines,
> and other outlets, when PATH no longer sell them from their own
> machines? It seems odd that a PATH-only ticket cannot be bought at a
> PATH station, but is still available elsewhere.

The Port of Authority is its own little empire, and NJT is not run by
competent people (their TVMs are a prima facie case, he said as the train
left without him as the machine took eight minutes to print two round trip
tickets).

> Metrocads. I did see that the MTA have a smartcard system on trial at
> a few subway stations, but this is not yet generally available, and is

Why would you expect the return of interline ticketing to the NY area? First
thinbg you know, someone with (duh!!!) start thinking that this could be a
regional transportation system instead of merely a way for people to get in
and out of Manhattan.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie