Photographing the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 03:41:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>> An attorney's job is to advise the client how not to have to appear
>> before the judge.  A lot easier than trying to get him or her "off".
>> At least that's how I practice law.
>
>So you advise a not-guilty client to plead to a lesser charge?

(a) I don't do criminal defense but I can refer people to those who
do, just as they refer people with regulatory compliance problems to
me.

(b) I advise my clients on what the law is and if/how they can get
what they want without violating the law. The joy of regulatory law
is that one can apply for waivers if there is enough reason to have
one granted and the trick is to do so before one takes action.
Whether they take that advice or not is their choice - I charge the
same either way. Smart people listen.

(c) I always tell my clients that a trial is a crapshoot - no one can
guarantee any outcome. The two cases that I have lost prove that.
They were very solid cases that hinged on "unreasonableness" of the
restrictions but the judges involved had pre-conceived notions
otherwise, and the clients were wise (or cash-strapped) enough to know
when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
--

"Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Please"

Phil Kane - Beaverton, OR
PNW Beburg MP 28.0 - OE District

According to the Brooklyn Paper -- paranoia is everywhere.

A newspaper photographer was stopped by cops from taking pictures in Cadman
Plaza and made to erase his pictures last week "Pictures are forbidden";
another cop in Prospect Park threatened to arrest a woman for taking
pictures of her daughter in Prospect Park "Pictures are Forbidden."

Railfans should not feel picked on -- there are incompetent would-be
Gestapo types everywhere.

Jim Guthrie

J.R.Guthrie wrote:
> According to the Brooklyn Paper -- paranoia is everywhere.
>
> A newspaper photographer was stopped by cops from taking pictures in Cadman
> Plaza and made to erase his pictures last week "Pictures are forbidden";
> another cop in Prospect Park threatened to arrest a woman for taking
> pictures of her daughter in Prospect Park "Pictures are Forbidden."


Thats news to me





> Railfans should not feel picked on -- there are incompetent would-be
> Gestapo types everywhere.
>
>




>

"Vince" <vpilutis@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4878F71F.1040700@optonline.net...
>
> J.R.Guthrie wrote:
>> According to the Brooklyn Paper -- paranoia is everywhere.
>>
>> A newspaper photographer was stopped by cops from taking pictures in
>> Cadman Plaza and made to erase his pictures last week "Pictures are
>> forbidden"; another cop in Prospect Park threatened to arrest a woman for
>> taking pictures of her daughter in Prospect Park "Pictures are
>> Forbidden."
>
> Thats news to me

Well, it was "news" to the supervisers the Brooklyn Papers contacted as
well.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie

danny burstein wrote:
> In <4878FE91.1040001@optonline.net> Vince <vpilutis@optonline.net> writes:
>
>
>>A park worker? Don't make me laugh, like I'm going to listen to them?
>>They have no enforcement power and if they call the police I'd be long gone.
>
>
> The Park Enforement Patrol (PEP) officers look, sound,
> act, quack, and have all the other powers of NYC Boys
> in Blue. (Except most don't carry guns).
>
> They can arrest and give fully valid summonses,
> levying fines and penalties.
>
> ANd yes, this is different than in many other locales.
>
> Wiki has a good writeup, with cites and references:
>
> New_York_City_Park_Enforcement_Patrol
>
>

Now that not a park worker, shows you how long since I've been in
a major park