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Old 19th June 2008, 09:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
Peter T. Daniels
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On Jun 19, 7:53 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@**************> wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
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> >>Back to the original question: should buses be ticketed for gridlock
> >>violations? It happens all the time.

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> > And what, the MTA pays a fine to the city? The bus driver's license is
> > suspended, so they get to hire a temp bus driver?

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> With the red light cameras the driver pays the fine and gets disciplined
> if he does it often.  There are no temporary bus drivers working for the TA.


And when he "gets disciplined"? Who drives his route?
 
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Old 19th June 2008, 10:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On Jun 19, 10:36 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 5:04 pm, "chris.linthomp...@**********"
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> <chris.linthomp...@**********> wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 4:30 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:

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> > > On Jun 19, 2:08 pm, "chris.linthomp...@**********"

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> > > <chris.linthomp...@**********> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 19, 11:07 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:

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> > > > > On Jun 19, 10:47 am, "chris.linthomp...@**********"

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> > > > > <chris.linthomp...@**********> wrote:
> > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:46 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@************> wrote:

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> > > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:26 am, "chris.linthomp...@**********"

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> > > > > > > <chris.linthomp...@**********> wrote:
> > > > > > > > The NY City Council is urging passage of a bill to allow traffic
> > > > > > > > enforcement agents to issue tickets for "Blocking the Box" or causing
> > > > > > > > gridlock. I've seen those agents wave enough traffic into an
> > > > > > > > intersection to cause gridlock, but that's neither here no there.

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> > > > > > > > Should buses be ticketed for blocking the box? It happens all the
> > > > > > > > time.

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> > > > > > > There have been "block the box" fine signs up for years -- if they
> > > > > > > couldn't issue tickets for it, how was it enforced?

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> > > > > > Only police officers could issue the tickets.

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> > > > > So what's a "traffic enforcement agent"? How do they enforce traffic
> > > > > if they can't write tickets?

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> > > > The Dept. of Traffic agents could only issue summonses for parking
> > > > violations. Only NYPD or other peace officers were allowed to issues
> > > > summonses for moving violations.

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> > > > Back to the original question: should buses be ticketed for gridlock
> > > > violations? It happens all the time.

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> > > And what, the MTA pays a fine to the city? The bus driver's license is
> > > suspended, so they get to hire a temp bus driver?

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> > The driver pays the fine and gets the points on the license.

>
> And he can still drive a bus with point after point?


No idea.

Chris
 
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