Newer equipment for Queens lines

When will the heavily used Queens lines (A, C, E, F) see new equipment?
They're still using the oldest equipment in the system (R32, R38, R44,
R46). It always seems that Queens riders get the newest train types last.

--LG

On Apr 11, 3:02 pm, Vince <vi...@vbphoto.net> wrote:
> Lawrence Greenwald wrote:
> > When will the heavily used Queens lines (A, C, E, F) see new equipment?
> > They're still using the oldest equipment in the system (R32, R38, R44,
> > R46). It always seems that Queens riders get the newest train types last..
>
> > --LG
>
> Back in the 1970s I used to hear it was the Queens lines that get the
> new trains first  i.e. the F

You're posting from an hour in the future! Either your computer's
clock or its time zone is set wrong.

In <ftoghq$qd6$1@reader2.panix.com> info@analysisandsolutions.com (Analysis&Solutions) writes:

>In <254c20b2-a504-4cd6-b66c-ff9bfd0d0c45@d1g2000hsg..com> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@> writes:

>>You're posting from an hour in the future! Either your computer's
>>clock or its time zone is set wrong.

>Me? It's a bit after 4pm, 16:00 EDT, 20:00 UTC. Let's see what comes
>out...

My server is showing this article was posted a bit after 20:00 UTC. So
the machines I'm involved with are working fine. How about yours?

--Dan

On Apr 11, 4:12 pm, i...@analysisandsolutions.com (Analysis&Solutions)
wrote:
> In <ftoghq$qd...@reader2.panix.com> i...@analysisandsolutions.com (Analysis&Solutions) writes:
>
> >In <254c20b2-a504-4cd6-b66c-ff9bfd0d0...@d1g2000hsg..com> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@> writes:
> >>You're posting from an hour in the future! Either your computer's
> >>clock or its time zone is set wrong.
> >Me?  It's a bit after 4pm, 16:00 EDT, 20:00 UTC.  Let's see what comes
> >out...
>
> My server is showing this article was posted a bit after 20:00 UTC.  So
> the machines I'm involved with are working fine.  How about yours?

Was I talking to you?

On Apr 12, 1:35 pm, i...@analysisandsolutions.com (Analysis&Solutions)
wrote:
> In <5711d733-dc6c-42f9-b95f-05ef47f8b...@f36g2000hsa..com> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@> writes:
>
> >Was I talking to you?
>
> I tend to assume someone is talking to me when they post a follow up to a
> message I posted.  Call me crazy...

Do you not see the post from Vince that mine replied to, and that mine
quoted?

Maybe you need to upgrade to google groups?

On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.> wrote:
> On Apr 13, 4:50 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> > > On Apr 11, 7:49 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@> wrote:
>
> > >>>How does water hurt stainless steel?
>
> > >>Not so much the stainless, but it gets into the cracks and ruins the
> > >>interiors and flooring.
>
> > > Why are there cracks?  They don't sound good.  In addition to wetting
> > > interiors and floors, it can drip on passengers' clothing and create a
> > > slipping hazard.
>
> > > Rail cars used to be tested in a Budd climate facility, where the car
> > > was innundated with water to check for leaks.
>
> > > If the cars have developed cracks, there's this thing called caulk
> > > which can seal them.  For years GE made silicone based products which
> > > are great.
>
> > I think that because the delivery of the R-160's is going so well, that
> > they don't want to waste money on cars that will be needed only for a
> > short time.  The R-160's in the four car sets will be enough to make ENY
> > 100% hi-tech cars - R143 and R160 only.  They need 480 cars for service
> > and there will be 562 R-143 and R-160's combined.
>
> I hope the R160's weather well, because the new N trains are parked
> outside at Astoria Blvd.

Are any trains "parked" anywhere _but_ "outside"?

On Apr 14, 2:15 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@> wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.> wrote:
>
> >>On Apr 13, 4:50 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@> wrote:
>
> >>>hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> >>>>On Apr 11, 7:49 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>How does water hurt stainless steel?
>
> >>>>>Not so much the stainless, but it gets into the cracks and ruins the
> >>>>>interiors and flooring.
>
> >>>>Why are there cracks?  They don't sound good.  In addition to wetting
> >>>>interiors and floors, it can drip on passengers' clothing and create a
> >>>>slipping hazard.
>
> >>>>Rail cars used to be tested in a Budd climate facility, where the car
> >>>>was innundated with water to check for leaks.
>
> >>>>If the cars have developed cracks, there's this thing called caulk
> >>>>which can seal them.  For years GE made silicone based products which
> >>>>are great.
>
> >>>I think that because the delivery of the R-160's is going so well, that
> >>>they don't want to waste money on cars that will be needed only for a
> >>>short time.  The R-160's in the four car sets will be enough to make ENY
> >>>100% hi-tech cars - R143 and R160 only.  They need 480 cars for service
> >>>and there will be 562 R-143 and R-160's combined.
>
> >>I hope the R160's weather well, because the new N trains are parked
> >>outside at Astoria Blvd.
>
> > Are any trains "parked" anywhere _but_ "outside"?
>
> The 148th on the Lenox, the Mosholu and Pitkin yards line has been
> covered over by housing for years.  On many lines the express tracks are
>   used over night for storage.

I don't know from Pitkin, but Mosholu (visible from the Bedford Blvd.
sta. on the Woodlawn line) and the one time I was there 148th St.
aren't covered.

Back when trains terminated at 137th St., the "yard" north of it was
used for storage.

In article
<lawrence.greenwald-9599C6.17351210042008@newsclstr02.news. >,
Lawrence Greenwald <lawrence.greenwald@> wrote:

> When will the heavily used Queens lines (A, C, E, F) see new equipment?
> They're still using the oldest equipment in the system (R32, R38, R44,
> R46). It always seems that Queens riders get the newest train types last.
>
> --LG

I should qualify a bit. My memory of the Queens Blvd. line (my home
station was Van Wyck Blvd, before it added the Briarwood name) was that
we went from R-1 thru R-7 series (I don't think the R-9 series were ever
assigned to Queens Blvd service) right to the R-38 series in the late
60s - we didn't get the intervening 16, 27, 30/30a or 32 series - then
the 40 (slant), 40m, 44 and 46 series. We did get a few 42s (the last of
the lot, numbers 4924 thru 4949, were the only ones I saw).

There hasn't been any intervening series and the newest ones (68, 143,
160) aren't anywhere around. Yes I know of the fiasco with the R-46
trucks and the time the 16s were dragged out of storage to fill the gap
when the 46s and possibly the 44s were removed.

Forgive - I moved away in 1982, so anything else is just based on the
postings to this group!

--LG