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On May 6, 3:34 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> But doesn't the five counties that make up New York City have separate
> courts, D.A.s, etc.?

For the civil courts at least, it's by "Department."

New York County (Manhattan) and Da Bronecks are the First Department.
Westchester is the Ninth Department, I think. As you go upstate the
number of counties in each Department increases. The rulings in the
Supreme Court (as Phil said it's a district-level trial court in NYS)
of the First Department are considered more ugh gilded with
competency, but just informally.

On May 8, 9:23 am, ste...@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) wrote:
> JohnAnon  <JohnA...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> >On May 6, 3:34 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> >> But doesn't the five counties that make up New York City have separate
> >> courts, D.A.s, etc.?
>
> >For the civil courts at least, it's by "Department."
>
> >New York County (Manhattan) and Da Bronecks are the First Department.
> >Westchester is the Ninth Department, I think. As you go upstate the
> >number of counties in each Department increases. The rulings in the
> >Supreme Court (as Phil said it's a district-level trial court in NYS)
> >of the First Department are considered more ugh gilded with
> >competency, but just informally.
>
> I just got called for the U.S. District Court.  This was in
> Downtown Brooklyn, reasonably convenient to my home.  However,
> when I got there I was told that the available pool was from
> S.I., Brooklyn, Queens, and Nassau and Suffolk counties.
>
> For someone living in, say Montauk at the eastern end of Long
> Island, Google says this drive clocks in at 2 hrs., 39 minutes!
> (and "up to 3:20 in traffic").
>
> obTransit: or a trip of 3:04 on the RR + subway or walking.

What's the name of that District? Wasn't Giuliani the US Attorney for
the Southern District of New York, which included all of New York City?

JohnAnon wrote:
> On May 6, 3:34 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
>> But doesn't the five counties that make up New York City have separate
>> courts, D.A.s, etc.?
>
> For the civil courts at least, it's by "Department."
>
> New York County (Manhattan) and Da Bronecks are the First Department.
> Westchester is the Ninth Department, I think. As you go upstate the
> number of counties in each Department increases. The rulings in the
> Supreme Court (as Phil said it's a district-level trial court in NYS)
> of the First Department are considered more ugh gilded with
> competency, but just informally.

The bribery down here is more professional indeed.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:25:32 +0000 (UTC), steveo@panix.com (Steven M.
O'Neill) wrote:

>Cyrus Afzali <pnsmnyv@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
>>On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:23:33 -0700, Phil Kane
>><Phil.Kane@nov.shmovz.ka.pop> wrote:
>>
>>>ObTransit - does the NY court administration reimburse jurors for
>>>transportation and meals as do other jurisdictions?
>>
>>They do for transportation, provided you don't live within a certain
>>radius of the courthouse where you have to report; if you live too
>>close, they don't give you anything. Meals aren't covered unless
>>you're in active deliberations, in which case they're provided and
>>brought to you.
>
>Depends on the court. I'll be reimbursed something like $4.86
>for my one day of commuting to the aforementioned (in this
>thread) U.S. District Court.

Right; should have menetioned that it depends on whether it's federal
or state. Steven's experience is federal; mine is state where the
situation operates as I describe.

On May 8, 6:47 pm, Phil Kane <Phil.K...@nov.shmovz.ka.pop> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:25:32 +0000 (UTC), ste...@panix.com (Steven M.
>
> O'Neill) wrote:
> >Depends on the court.  I'll be reimbursed something like $4.86
> >for my one day of commuting to the aforementioned (in this
> >thread) U.S. District Court.
>
> Not bad!  When I was called for the pre-induction physical at the
> (in)famous 39 Whitehall Street Armed Forces Induction Center, they
> declined to pay my parking garage cost (in those days - 47 years ago -
> it cost like $3.00 to park all day in downtown Manhattan) but they did
> give us two subway tokens.

You were the mr brklyn of 1961 -- you had to drive from Brooklyn to
Lower Manhattan??

On May 8, 6:41 pm, Phil Kane <Phil.K...@nov.shmovz.ka.pop> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:23:17 +0000 (UTC), ste...@panix.com (Steven M.
>
> O'Neill) wrote:
> >I just got called for the U.S. District Court.  This was in
> >Downtown Brooklyn, reasonably convenient to my home.  However,
> >when I got there I was told that the available pool was from
> >S.I., Brooklyn, Queens, and Nassau and Suffolk counties.
>
> >For someone living in, say Montauk at the eastern end of Long
> >Island, Google says this drive clocks in at 2 hrs., 39 minutes!
> >(and "up to 3:20 in traffic").
>
> >obTransit: or a trip of 3:04 on the RR + subway or walking.
>
> Ah, Federal Court! (that's my bailiwick).  The counties which you have
> described make up the Eastern District of New York.  In practical
> terms, a decent judge will excuse a juror if excess travel time or
> loss of income is involved or if personal commitments make it
> impractical to serve.  

The one time I made it as far as the pool for jury selection, it was a
Friday and they let me go because I had a conference to attend on
Monday, and it might have been a two-day trial. (A Bronx county
court.)

> My wife was excused once because it was two
> days before Pesah and we were having seder for 20.....this was after
> having to report for a case before a Magistrate Judge  (contract judge
> hearing arraignments and petty Federal offenses) who was known as the
> meanest SOB on the bench (I knew him as such for many years when he
> was a prosecutor) and she knew all the right things to say - which
> were no lies - to get both attorneys AND the MagJudge to demand that
> she be excused.  IIRC "Get this woman out of my court" was his parting
> shot....
>
> Enjoy the process....

On May 8, 11:54 pm, AllstonParkingRefu...@************ wrote:
> On May 8, 11:45 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 3:06 pm, Cyrus Afzali <pnsm...@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
>
> > > Municipal court authority is a state-granted thing. NY's village
> > > courts are unusual animals in and of themselves, as those sorts of
> > > things are done on the county and/or state district level everywhere
> > > else.
>
> And village justices are often people with no legal education.  The
> Times had an article a year or two ago about how many of them had
> other jobs like town truck mechanic, and they make the law up as they
> go.

Hey, it worked in Mayberry.

Did Andy Taylor ever run for reelection?