NYPD harassing photogs again

On Dec 7, 5:34 pm, Alex L <alexl.nos...@si.> wrote:
> In article
> <22116ec9-1ded-4f76-93fe-3b10639c6...@l1g2000hsa..com>,
>
> <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 12:33 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.> wrote:
>
> > > The NYPD is being slapped with a lawsuit after detaining a graduate
> > > student who was taking pictures near a subway station in Upper
> > > Manhattan.
>
> > Something is very odd about this incident. Perhaps we don't have all
> > the facts.
>
> > As I understood the article, the man was out on the street, not in the
> > subway. IIRC, the 207th St station is underground, so there is very
> > little "subway" to be taking pictures of.
>
> 207 St on the 1 is an elevated station with a view of the 207 Yard of
> the A line.

If he was _outside_ the station, he couldn't see into the yard.

>Officials point to several examples in
>which these kinds of stops have helped
>nab suspected terrorists.

I've never heard of any of them. They need to be more specific.

--
"Whatever you do, don't stick your head in the oven" - Keith Hernandez,
on how to end a batting slump

In article
<0a3db0f7-f214-418f-afde-cb1e4a78442e@r60g2000hsc..com>,
Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@> wrote:

> On Dec 7, 5:34 pm, Alex L <alexl.nos...@si.> wrote:
> > In article
> > <22116ec9-1ded-4f76-93fe-3b10639c6...@l1g2000hsa..com>,
> >
> > <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 7, 12:33 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.> wrote:
> >
> > > > The NYPD is being slapped with a lawsuit after detaining a graduate
> > > > student who was taking pictures near a subway station in Upper
> > > > Manhattan.
> >
> > > Something is very odd about this incident. Perhaps we don't have all
> > > the facts.
> >
> > > As I understood the article, the man was out on the street, not in the
> > > subway. IIRC, the 207th St station is underground, so there is very
> > > little "subway" to be taking pictures of.
> >
> > 207 St on the 1 is an elevated station with a view of the 207 Yard of
> > the A line.
>
> If he was _outside_ the station, he couldn't see into the yard.


Maybe you should take yourself up to 207 St and Tenth Ave and take a
look around. Even from street level you can see into the yard.

Peter "Clownbot5000" Daniels" wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2:25 pm, VINCE <HOLVBPH...@> wrote:
> > OH excuuuse me elevated station.
> > The 125th station on the no 1.
>
> It's not in Harlem.

And with that post, Peter climaxed, having utterly humiliated Vince
through Peter's dogged pursuit of geographic correctness.

What would this group do for comic relief without Peter?

On Dec 8, 8:30 pm, Alex L <alexl.nos...@si.> wrote:
> In article
> <0a3db0f7-f214-418f-afde-cb1e4a784...@r60g2000hsc..com>,
> Peter T. Daniels <gramma...@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 5:34 pm, Alex L <alexl.nos...@si.> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <22116ec9-1ded-4f76-93fe-3b10639c6...@l1g2000hsa..com>,
>
> > > <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 7, 12:33 pm, JohnAnon <JohnA...@nyc.> wrote:
>
> > > > > The NYPD is being slapped with a lawsuit after detaining a graduate
> > > > > student who was taking pictures near a subway station in Upper
> > > > > Manhattan.
>
> > > > Something is very odd about this incident. Perhaps we don't have all
> > > > the facts.
>
> > > > As I understood the article, the man was out on the street, not in the
> > > > subway. IIRC, the 207th St station is underground, so there is very
> > > > little "subway" to be taking pictures of.
>
> > > 207 St on the 1 is an elevated station with a view of the 207 Yard of
> > > the A line.
>
> > If he was _outside_ the station, he couldn't see into the yard.
>
> Maybe you should take yourself up to 207 St and Tenth Ave and take a
> look around. Even from street level you can see into the yard.-

Maybe I used to live around there and go to PathMark every so often.
From where?

>There's not even any law or administrative
>rule against photographing on NYCTA
>property, is there?

As long as you're in a public area and you're not interfering with
operations or traffic flow, no there is NOT.

--
"Whatever you do, don't stick your head in the oven" - Keith Hernandez,
on how to end a batting slump

> >There's not even any law or administrative
>>rule against photographing on NYCTA
>>property, is there?
>
> As long as you're in a public area and you're not interfering with
> operations or traffic flow, no there is NOT.
>
And if in a station or said public area owned by the TA, not using a flash
or tripod. And there are no rules on public streets as far as the
photographer's transit subject, whether train or yard or station or facility
of any kind.

The only exception in the NY Area is the PATH, where, as we know, the Port
of Authority believes the World Trade Center never would have been destroyed
if it weren't for those pesky photographers.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie

On Dec 12, 9:41 am, jdoe <j...@> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:27:35 -0800 (PST), hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> >Are there signs posted on any other of the MTA bridges? On the Port
> >Authority bridges?
>
> yes there are signs posted that prohibit photography on the MTA and PA
> bridges

Okay, y'all say that is MTA too. I think of subway and busses.

>Where exactly does it say you are not
>allowed to photograph NYC bridges? Who
>issued that ruling?

It's been a long-standing rule on all TBTA bridges.

--
"Whatever you do, don't stick your head in the oven" - Keith Hernandez,
on how to end a batting slump

>For the MTA Bridges and Tunnels to have
>an actual, enforceable rule on
>photography, they would need to post the
>rules, have a period of comment and then
>hold hearings. The next step would be to
>have them discussed and voted on by the
>full MTA Board.

The TBTA photography rule predates 9/11. It even predates the MTA.

--
"Whatever you do, don't stick your head in the oven" - Keith Hernandez,
on how to end a batting slump