Dodgers leaving Brooklyn

On Jul 20, 12:44 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:25 am, Bolwerk <bolw...@> wrote:
>
> > It really makes you wonder how Moses still has so many fans.
>
> As to Moses, the recent research by Columbia University shows that
> some criticisms of Moses, especially in the postwar period, were not
> quite justified. We need to dig deep enough to get the real picture.
> I strongly recommend the new book "A City Transformed".

Why do you call it "research by Columbia University"? Aside from the
two volume editors, of the 19 contributors, the only ones from
Columbia are three students, one of them evidently an undergraduate,
one with a just-completed master's, and one a Ph.D. candidate.

On Jul 23, 9:19 am, Bolwerk <bolw...@> wrote:

> Bob Dylan had these lyrics in a song ("Hard Times in New York Town")
> from the early '60s, when he first came to New York:
>
> I'll take all the smog in Cal-i-for-ne-ay,
> 'N' every bit of dust in the Oklahoma plains,
> 'N' the dirt in the caves of the Rocky Mountain mines.
> It's all much cleaner than the New York kind.

Liza Minnelli reversed that in lyrics from The Act, where she sang she
loved New York because she didn't trust breathing air she couldn't
see. (audience laughs)

On Jul 24, 5:09 pm, General Kireiko <doug...@panix.com> wrote:
> hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> Moses had the power to condemn the land. It would have been a scandal if
> it were done. One would have to consider MLB in Brooklyn for the public
> good.

As a member of Happy Felton's Knothole Gang, I have to say it would
not have been much different from what Moses did for the constituents
of Lincoln Center (almost costing Carnegie Hall in the process).

On Jul 24, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 1:04 am, "william welner" <wweln...@> wrote:

> > Caro stated that Moses had more power than any elected official in NY
> > had the power to prevent O'Malley from building a new Stadium in Brooklyn in
> > the 1950's.
>
> Moses had power with regard to highways.

He also ran the parks. (You did claim to have gone to all four museum
exhibits, didn't you?)

And much upstate, such as the Niagara Falls power system. It's
ionteresting that what you called the "Columbia research" simply
ignored his NYS work.

On Jul 24, 10:25 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > On Jul 20, 1:04 am, "william welner" <wweln...@> wrote:
> > > Caro stated that Moses had more power than any elected official in NY
> > > had the power to prevent O'Malley from building a new Stadium in Brooklyn in
> > > the 1950's.
>
> > Moses had power with regard to highways.
>
> He also ran the parks. (You did claim to have gone to all four museum
> exhibits, didn't you?)
>
> And much upstate, such as the Niagara Falls power system. It's
> ionteresting that what you called the "Columbia research" simply
> ignored his NYS work.

Moses often said and wrote that Long Island was his first love.

Sancho Panza wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:25 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@> wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 4:12 pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 20, 1:04 am, "william welner" <wweln...@> wrote:
>>>> Caro stated that Moses had more power than any elected official in NY
>>>> had the power to prevent O'Malley from building a new Stadium in Brooklyn in
>>>> the 1950's.
>>> Moses had power with regard to highways.
>> He also ran the parks. (You did claim to have gone to all four museum
>> exhibits, didn't you?)
>>
>> And much upstate, such as the Niagara Falls power system. It's
>> ionteresting that what you called the "Columbia research" simply
>> ignored his NYS work.
>
> Moses often said and wrote that Long Island was his first love.

Heh, given his seemingly bland personality, why does that not surprise me?