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Old 10th June 2006, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Consider the debate over RFID passports in the US recently; the Dept of
> State finally agreed to put foil liners in the cover to prevent reading the
> tag when the passport was closed after folks demonstrated a bomb could be
> triggered based on sensing when a US passport was within the blast radius.


Does that mean passports will set off metal detectors? I certainly
don't want to have to let my passport out of my physical possession to
avoid being hand-scanned.

> We're only a decade or two away from injecting
> tags into people the same way and getting rid of cards entirely. Many
> sheeple will welcome that, but the dangers should be obvious to anyone with
> a brain...


Supposedly the military already tried to do this, but they changed
their mind after complaints.

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Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> I already have to send my wallet through the X-ray machine because nearly
> everything in it (e.g. DL, credit cards) will set off a metal detector.
> Adding my passport to that list is harmless.


Why would a driver's license or credit cards set off a metal detector?
(Do magstripes contain a significant amount of metal?)

> Though, for the record, I have no idea if the foil liner will be enough to
> set off the standard detectors at the airport. I figure if my belt can get
> through, a little bit of foil should be able to.


There's no way a metal belt buckle contains less metal than a credit
card.

> Consider how vehemently people cry out against taking fingerprints and DNA
> without a warrant, yet those same people will voluntarily take samples from
> their kids and submit them to national databases "in case they're
> kidnapped." Too bad for those kids they can't get the data out after they
> turn 18, and DNA doesn't change...


Slow down there -- that's quite a claim you're making about "people".
Can you provide a single example of a person who fits that description?

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