Broadway Nassau et al Station

Doug Cunningly wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a map of this station, showing the pathways and exits and
> how they relate to each line? Thanks, Doug

It's one of the stations for which isometric or axonometric diagrams
were posted, a long time ago.

It can be confusing.
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net

Greg Pratt wrote:
>
> In article <427BCC2F.2C5B@worldnet.att.net>,
> Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Doug Cunningly wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a map of this station, showing the pathways and exits and
> >> how they relate to each line? Thanks, Doug
> >
> >It's one of the stations for which isometric or axonometric diagrams
> >were posted, a long time ago.
>
> Yes, but where *are* these maps? :)

I think there's one at the entrance to the uptown NR.

> I don't spend much time in that station. Last weekend, I was attempting to
> guide an out-of-town friend through the station late at night, as he needed
> to take a different train home than I did. After I had spend a couple of
> minutes explaining to him that this was one of the most complicated station
> layouts in the city, I then proceeded to prove it by nearly getting us
> lost.

Oh, well, late night on a weekend, there might have been only one train
stopping there at all.
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net

On Sun, 08 May 2005 20:59:43 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Greg Pratt wrote:
>>
>> In article <427BCC2F.2C5B@worldnet.att.net>,
>> Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >Doug Cunningly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have a map of this station, showing the pathways and exits and
>> >> how they relate to each line? Thanks, Doug
>> >
>> >It's one of the stations for which isometric or axonometric diagrams
>> >were posted, a long time ago.
>>
>> Yes, but where *are* these maps? :)
>
>I think there's one at the entrance to the uptown NR.

On the platform for the uptown 4,5,6. You would really be lost
looking for the N or R there.

>> I don't spend much time in that station. Last weekend, I was attempting to
>> guide an out-of-town friend through the station late at night, as he needed
>> to take a different train home than I did. After I had spend a couple of
>> minutes explaining to him that this was one of the most complicated station
>> layouts in the city, I then proceeded to prove it by nearly getting us
>> lost.
>
>Oh, well, late night on a weekend, there might have been only one train
>stopping there at all.

A, 2 and 4 stop there all the time, except a lot of weekends recently
the 4 hasn't been.

--
Peter Schleifer
"Save me from the people who would save me from myself"

Peter Schleifer wrote:
>
> On Sun, 08 May 2005 20:59:43 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Greg Pratt wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <427BCC2F.2C5B@worldnet.att.net>,
> >> Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> >Doug Cunningly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have a map of this station, showing the pathways and exits and
> >> >> how they relate to each line? Thanks, Doug
> >> >
> >> >It's one of the stations for which isometric or axonometric diagrams
> >> >were posted, a long time ago.
> >>
> >> Yes, but where *are* these maps? :)
> >
> >I think there's one at the entrance to the uptown NR.
>
> On the platform for the uptown 4,5,6. You would really be lost
> looking for the N or R there.

Yeah, one of those obscure (non-West Side) lines ... Doesn't a piece of
the Nassau Loop stop there too?

> >> I don't spend much time in that station. Last weekend, I was attempting to
> >> guide an out-of-town friend through the station late at night, as he needed
> >> to take a different train home than I did. After I had spend a couple of
> >> minutes explaining to him that this was one of the most complicated station
> >> layouts in the city, I then proceeded to prove it by nearly getting us
> >> lost.
> >
> >Oh, well, late night on a weekend, there might have been only one train
> >stopping there at all.
>
> A, 2 and 4 stop there all the time, except a lot of weekends recently
> the 4 hasn't been.

Er, no, last month I was going to a conference at John Jay College and
wanted to take the A train from PATH WTC to Columbus Circle. Bway-Nassau
is a much shorter walk than Chambers St. underground, plus I'd be at the
front of the train, which is where the correct exit is. Turned out there
was no northbound A/C service all weekend between Jay St.(?) and West
4th.

(If there had been signs at the PATH station, I could have simply taken
the E to W4; as it was, since I was already in the system, I had to walk
the whole length of the station to William St. to the 2/3, having
resigned myself to changing from express to local -- and what should
come along but a train signed as a 1, which came into Chambers St. (IRT)
on the express track (severely confusing the people who were waiting for
the uptown local -- and no announcement was made until the doors were
about to close) but then switched over and made all local stops to 59th
(but 2/3s were passing on the express track anyway).)
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net

On Mon, 09 May 2005 13:25:53 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Peter Schleifer wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 20:59:43 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


>Yeah, one of those obscure (non-West Side) lines ... Doesn't a piece of
>the Nassau Loop stop there too?

J, all times except weekends
M, rush hours

Except lately when the 4 hasn't been running on weekends the J has
been going to either Atlantic or Pacific.


>> >Oh, well, late night on a weekend, there might have been only one train
>> >stopping there at all.
>>
>> A, 2 and 4 stop there all the time, except a lot of weekends recently
>> the 4 hasn't been.
>
>Er, no, last month I was going to a conference at John Jay College and
>wanted to take the A train from PATH WTC to Columbus Circle. Bway-Nassau
>is a much shorter walk than Chambers St. underground, plus I'd be at the
>front of the train, which is where the correct exit is. Turned out there
>was no northbound A/C service all weekend between Jay St.(?) and West
>4th.

Yeah, they also do that sometimes.

>(If there had been signs at the PATH station, ...

At least most subway stations now have the weekend summaries. There
is probably too much bureaucracy in the way of posting them in PATH.
They don't put PATH notices in the subway, either. I once had to use
an extra fare when the PATH station I wanted to use was closed for the
weekend.

--
Peter Schleifer
"Save me from the people who would save me from myself"

Peter Schleifer <pschleif@speakeasy.org> wrote in
news:u3it71pp1mln3l8g73m8kghcc5kb40h8v8@:

>
> On the platform for the uptown 4,5,6. You would really be lost
> looking for the N or R there.

I think that only covers part of the station (it doesn't go all the way to
the 2/3, and I'm not sure it includes the J/M/Z platforms either). There
was another one posted somewhere on the eastern end of the station to
complement that map, but I'm not sure if it's still there after they redid
the mezzanine area around the intersection of Fulton and William Streets as
part of the A/C rehab.

- David