The end of an era - slant R-40 cars

[Vince]

grammatim wrote:
> On Jun 14, 11:09 pm, Vince <vpilu...@**************> wrote:
>> Miles Bader wrote:
>>> hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
>>>> (The automated public address systems of the M-7
>>>> cars are quite irritating, especially on a local with frequent stops.)
>>> How come?
>>> [I'm not in NYC, but I generally prefer human conductors making
>>> announcements, simply because it feels a bit more human (and there's
>>> more interesting variety) ... but there are certainly many pleasant and
>>> functional automated announcement systems too...]
>>> -Miles
>> Oh yeah we had a real winner on the D last week, a female:
>> "Please watch out for the C L O S I N G DOORS"
>> That was from 42nd St to Bay 50th St HELP!
>
> BTW I noticed that your messages are now quoting properly.

I been using the new reader for about three weeks now, on my site it
looks fine

[Jimmy]

"J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> >Human announcements are brief: "Great Neck!" as opposed to, "[ding
> >dong] This station is, Great Neck. This is a local train to Port
> >Washington. The next station is, Manhasett".
>
> The equivalent human announcements tend to be something like:
>
> "Grsjhjkfjkhnk"

I don't think I've ever had trouble understand a human LIRR
announcement.

My only gripe is when a train in Penn Station has no announcements
about where it's going, until *after* the doors are closed.

Jimmy

[Vince]

Jimmy wrote:
> "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>> <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>> Human announcements are brief: "Great Neck!" as opposed to, "[ding
>>> dong] This station is, Great Neck. This is a local train to Port
>>> Washington. The next station is, Manhasett".
>> The equivalent human announcements tend to be something like:
>>
>> "Grsjhjkfjkhnk"
>
> I don't think I've ever had trouble understand a human LIRR
> announcement.
>
> My only gripe is when a train in Penn Station has no announcements
> about where it's going, until *after* the doors are closed.
>
> Jimmy

Er back to the R-40s, when are they going to put some new trains on the
C already?
Over 40 years with the same old cars which BTW as most of us know are
older then the 40s

[Vince]

Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> Vince wrote:
>> Jimmy wrote:
>>> "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>>>> <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>>>> Human announcements are brief: "Great Neck!" as opposed to, "[ding
>>>>> dong] This station is, Great Neck. This is a local train to Port
>>>>> Washington. The next station is, Manhasett".
>>>> The equivalent human announcements tend to be something like:
>>>>
>>>> "Grsjhjkfjkhnk"
>>>
>>> I don't think I've ever had trouble understand a human LIRR
>>> announcement.
>>>
>>> My only gripe is when a train in Penn Station has no announcements
>>> about where it's going, until *after* the doors are closed.
>>>
>>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> Er back to the R-40s, when are they going to put some new trains on
>> the C already?
>> Over 40 years with the same old cars which BTW as most of us know are
>> older then the 40s
> One of two things will have to happen: The C train goes to full 600'
> trains or the TA orders four car units of new, 60' cars.
>
> This is because of the conductor's controls. The R-32's are the only
> ones left with conductor controls in both cabs. This C conductor
> boards are positioned for 4-4 operation. They tried using R-40/42 on
> the C a few months ago and it failed, because they had the C operate
> with the conductor at the 5-3 position and stop the train at the far end
> of every station. This pulled the shorter train an extra 120' away from
> the station entrances at many stations. This caused delays waiting for
> the passengers get to the last car.
>
>
Sorry to say I'm a bit lost here Joseph as to what happens on the
weekends when the A (with different cabs) stops at those stations?
Two why is this only the case on the 8th Ave Line?
Three Why use shorter trains in the first place?
Lastly for over forty years this has been the case?

[Gerald Levy]

The C has always been the dumping ground for the oldest cars in the system.
It usually receives cast-offs from the A, so maybe in five years,when the A
gets some new R179's, the C will get the R44's.

Gerald

"Vince" <vpilutis@**************> wrote in message
news:4A3A6B39.3000504@**************...
> Jimmy wrote:
>> "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>>> <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>>> Human announcements are brief: "Great Neck!" as opposed to, "[ding
>>>> dong] This station is, Great Neck. This is a local train to Port
>>>> Washington. The next station is, Manhasett".
>>> The equivalent human announcements tend to be something like:
>>>
>>> "Grsjhjkfjkhnk"
>>
>> I don't think I've ever had trouble understand a human LIRR
>> announcement.
>>
>> My only gripe is when a train in Penn Station has no announcements
>> about where it's going, until *after* the doors are closed.
>>
>> Jimmy
>
>
> Er back to the R-40s, when are they going to put some new trains on the C
> already?
> Over 40 years with the same old cars which BTW as most of us know are
> older then the 40s