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    don
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    I have a Nissan 2000 Altima and I lost my keys - could a regular locksmith
    make a key for it? If I give a dealer my VIN would they be able to make a
    key? What is the best way to handle this problem?
    Can my car be towed to a dealer? I have Triple A, but I have not called them
    yet.

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    : P
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    don't you have a 2nd key? all the cars I've ever had came with 2 at least 2
    keys.

    "don" <don@panix.com> wrote in message
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    >I have a Nissan 2000 Altima and I lost my keys - could a regular locksmith
    >make a key for it? If I give a dealer my VIN would they be able to make a
    >key? What is the best way to handle this problem?
    > Can my car be towed to a dealer? I have Triple A, but I have not called
    > them yet.
    >
    >

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    don
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    no because I lost that key 2 years ago
    I think the key was too expensive

    ": P" <none@none.net> wrote in message
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    > don't you have a 2nd key? all the cars I've ever had came with 2 at least
    > 2 keys.
    >
    > "don" <don@panix.com> wrote in message
    > news:ffuev9$ruj$1@reader1.panix.com...
    >>I have a Nissan 2000 Altima and I lost my keys - could a regular locksmith
    >>make a key for it? If I give a dealer my VIN would they be able to make a
    >>key? What is the best way to handle this problem?
    >> Can my car be towed to a dealer? I have Triple A, but I have not called
    >> them yet.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >

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    system
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    On Oct 27, 12:31 am, "don" <d...@panix.com> wrote:
    > I have a Nissan 2000 Altima and I lost my keys - could a regular locksmith
    > make a key for it? If I give a dealer my VIN would they be able to make a
    > key? What is the best way to handle this problem?
    > Can my car be towed to a dealer? I have Triple A, but I have not called them
    > yet.


    yes dealer can make keys by using your VIN # ,than the keys need to be
    programed.It is not cheap.
    I would call your neerest Nissan dealer and make arrangement with
    them.
    Good luck to you!

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    Jim Yanik
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    "R J Talley" <omgb@ca........> wrote in
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    > "Otherwise you'd have gotten a replacement. Bite the bullet and count
    > this as a lesson learned. Or just sell the car as is and let the new
    > owner worry about getting a key."
    >
    > You know, I never said I lost my key. What happened is that I bought
    > my Murano used and it came with only one key.


    Same with my SE-R SpecV.(but not bought from a Nissan dealer)

    > When I asked the dealer
    > about a spare, he then told me what it was going to cost. Of course,
    > this entire conversation occurred after the deal had been inked. It
    > was only then that he revealed that the only key he had was the Valet
    > key. So, I was stuck and had to pony up the cost of another key. So I
    > guess the guy who traded in the car was following your very thoughtful
    > advice .... and let me worry about it.
    >
    > I stand by what I said, $130 for a new key is robbery, plain and
    > simple.
    >
    >
    >


    If that dealer was a Nissan dealer,he is dishonest,selling you a car with
    only a valet key. I would have written Nissan about him.
    I'd also let them know what I thought about their dealer programming
    charges after buying a new key.

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    Jim Yanik
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    still me <wheeledBob..........m> wrote in
    news:l65ii3dresld900s4n4t53801muheoho04@........:

    > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:23:02 -0700, "R J Talley" <omgb@ca........>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Another point.... it takes a plumber years to master the trade,
    >>likewise a doctor. That's what one is paying for when one hires them.
    >>Any monkey with guide book can cut and program a key. The time
    >>involved in training takes only minutes. The time involved in
    >>equipment a couple thousand at most and likely less in some cases. To
    >>charge $130 or more to make a key is robbery and nothing less. Any
    >>attempt to justify that is just plain irritating.

    >
    > Really? Minutes? You've been trained to do it? Only a measly couple of
    > thou for a modern key machine a and security system reprogrammer, eh?
    > Priced one, have you? How about the training program? How many keys
    > does the dealership have to make before they show $1 of profit on that
    > device and the employee training (to say nothing of the fixed costs
    > involved in simply running the business).


    Do you believe that a business HAS to make a profit on EVERY service and/or
    part they sell?
    The dealerships have to know how to do that stuff and have that equipment
    just to satisfy warranty service.

    Sometimes,it's a better business decision to give away or provide
    service/parts at cost or even a loss in order to better serve their
    customers and develop brand loyalty.They can even write off such things.
    A person with a Nissan might decide to buy a different brand if they felt
    they were not getting a fair treatment from a Nissan dealer.
    Someone with Nissan's resources can easily afford such things.
    Auto dealerships are NOT some "small business",and are highly profitable.

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    > still me <wheeledBob..........m> wrote in
    > news:l65ii3dresld900s4n4t53801muheoho04@........:
    >
    >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:23:02 -0700, "R J Talley" <omgb@ca........>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Another point.... it takes a plumber years to master the trade,
    >>>likewise a doctor. That's what one is paying for when one hires them.
    >>>Any monkey with guide book can cut and program a key. The time
    >>>involved in training takes only minutes. The time involved in
    >>>equipment a couple thousand at most and likely less in some cases. To
    >>>charge $130 or more to make a key is robbery and nothing less. Any
    >>>attempt to justify that is just plain irritating.

    >>
    >> Really? Minutes? You've been trained to do it? Only a measly couple of
    >> thou for a modern key machine a and security system reprogrammer, eh?
    >> Priced one, have you? How about the training program? How many keys
    >> does the dealership have to make before they show $1 of profit on that
    >> device and the employee training (to say nothing of the fixed costs
    >> involved in simply running the business).

    >
    > Do you believe that a business HAS to make a profit on EVERY service
    > and/or
    > part they sell?
    > The dealerships have to know how to do that stuff and have that equipment
    > just to satisfy warranty service.
    >
    > Sometimes,it's a better business decision to give away or provide
    > service/parts at cost or even a loss in order to better serve their
    > customers and develop brand loyalty.They can even write off such things.
    > A person with a Nissan might decide to buy a different brand if they felt
    > they were not getting a fair treatment from a Nissan dealer.
    > Someone with Nissan's resources can easily afford such things.
    > Auto dealerships are NOT some "small business",and are highly profitable.
    >
    > --
    > Jim Yanik
    > jyanik
    > at
    > kua.net


    "Sometimes,it's a better business decision to give away or provide
    service/parts at cost or even a loss in order to better serve their
    customers and develop brand loyalty."
    What hypocrisy, especially about Brand Loyalty. You stated "I bought if
    from the Toyota dealer next door."
    Then you have the nerve to gripe about the dealer price. If you had true
    Brand Loyalty, you'd have made your purchase from the Nissan Dealer, who'd
    probably back up the purchase and made sure you got the second key.

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    > If you are selling a product that can cost upwards of $35K or more and it
    > comes equipped with an essential part that is easily lost or damaged
    > rendering the product useless, then providing a low-cost means of
    > replacement is just plain good service.
    >
    > The training involved in programming the key is next to nothing. I know
    > this for a fact as I asked for and received an explanation from not only a
    > Nissan tech, but also a certified locksmith (he makes keys for several
    > makes of auto) who is part of my hunting club and a Ford service manager.
    > Likewise, the basic key cutting machine is nothing special. The blanks
    > come pre-chipped and ready to program from the automaker who in turn, buys
    > them from one of a handful of manufacturers. The cost for the machinery is
    > less than what it takes to buy a brake turning lathe. The total time
    > invested in making a new key and programming it is under 20 minutes and
    > closer to 10 minutes for a good tech. Again, verified by my inquiries to
    > the afore mentioned men.
    >
    > Your disgust and vitriol is misplaced. Aim it at the source of the
    > problem, the auto company, not at me.
    > R J Talley
    > Teacher/James Madison Fellow
    > "What? Me Worry? Alfred E Newman
    >


    "The cost for the machinery is less than what it takes to buy a brake
    turning lathe. "
    Would you mind stating what that price would be? I purchases a Used on car
    lathe for $1500, which was 10 years out of date. A new late would have set
    me back $5700. And you expect the keys to be given out free or at a
    ridiculously below cost price (parts/labor/equipment)?

    Another thing, "If you are selling a product that can cost upwards of $35K
    or more and it comes equipped with an essential part that is easily lost or
    damaged rendering the product useless, then providing a low-cost means of
    replacement is just plain good service." Are you saying you purchased the
    Murano from a Toyota Dealer for $35K and expect the Nissan Dealer to make
    you a special deal? Why do you think that Toyota Dealer quoted a high price
    for the key? Didn't they need to get it from the Nissan Dealer? Nissan and
    Toyota are 2 entirely different companies with product lines that have
    nothing to do with the other. You simply purchased a car that was used as a
    trade-in, just as any other used car dealer does. BTW, I purchased my
    Murano NEW from a Nissan Dealer for $35K and it came will the 2 keys/fobs &
    a valet key. I'm skeptical you paid Toyota the $35K and are just quoting
    the new car price.

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    Dave
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    In article <Xns99DACF7283836jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
    jyanik@abuse.gov says...

    > If that dealer was a Nissan dealer,he is dishonest,selling you a car with
    > only a valet key.


    Perhaps not dishonest, but certainly not quite up front.

    > I would have written Nissan about him.


    and expected them to do what?

    First, it's a USED car. Second, dealers are independent businesses
    and the factory has little to no control over how they conduct
    business. Certainly they have no say about a USED car.

    > I'd also let them know what I thought about their dealer programming
    > charges after buying a new key.


    see above. The market dictates the price. If people were not
    willing to pay it, the price would be lower.

    BTW, they key for a Lexus is more ($400+) and you don't even want to
    ask about one for a Mercedes.

    dave

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    Dave
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    In article <Xns99DADC3E2BEC4jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
    jyanik@abuse.gov says...

    > Do you believe that a business HAS to make a profit on EVERY service and/or
    > part they sell?


    No, they should LOSE money on everything they sell, but make it up in
    volume.

    > The dealerships have to know how to do that stuff and have that equipment
    > just to satisfy warranty service.


    why? When did losing a key become a warranty issue?

    > Sometimes,it's a better business decision to give away or provide
    > service/parts at cost or even a loss in order to better serve their
    > customers and develop brand loyalty.


    Yeah, like consumers are loyal to a car dealership. What color is
    the sky on your planet?

    > They can even write off such things.


    against the non-profit they make from selling at a loss.

    > A person with a Nissan might decide to buy a different brand if they felt
    > they were not getting a fair treatment from a Nissan dealer.


    and a person with a (insert other brand name here) might buy a
    Nissan.

    > Someone with Nissan's resources can easily afford such things.


    HUH?

    > Auto dealerships are NOT some "small business",and are highly profitable.


    Explain Oldsmobile to us? Or Plymouth? Or maybe Yugo.

    How much did Ford LOSE this year? Or GM?

    How many FEWER new car dealerships are there this year than last?

    dave

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