Who names new roads?

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

> In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808261153140.10664@urchin.earth.li >,
> twic@urchin.earth.li (Tom Anderson) wrote:
>
>> Speaking of Chesterton, why is there a cluster of caledonian
>> streets there? There's Scotland Road, Edinburgh Road, Kinross Road,
>> Inverness Close, Stirling Close. The road layout makes me think
>> that Scotland Road is quite old, but that the other ones, which are
>> branches off it, are newer; the houses on them are certainly all
>> brand spanking new. My guess would be that Scotland Road was built
>> many years ago, and named that for some reason, and then the new
>> estate was built recently, and the names chosen as a riff on the
>> parent road.
>
> It's known as the Scotland Farm estate, after what was there before the
> houses.

That would certainly explain it. Thanks!

tom

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First man to add a mixer get a shoeing! -- The Laird

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Roland Perry wrote:

> In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808261153140.10664@urchin.earth.li >, at 11:59:31
> on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> remarked:
>>>> There's a Docwra's Close next to Shepreth Station. Pronounce that!
>>>
>>> No harder than "Gwydir".
>>
>> Well, exactly.
>
> Care to enlighten us on your preferred pronunciations?

I've no idea how to pronounce either of them!

tom

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First man to add a mixer get a shoeing! -- The Laird

In article <huCdnc1Y8PZnZynVnZ2dnUVZ8g6dnZ2d@posted.plusnet >,
afiggis@example.com.invalid (Arthur Figgis) wrote:

> Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> > In article <Y9-dnfnxCYbc0CnVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@posted.plusnet>,
> > afiggis@example.com.invalid (Arthur Figgis) wrote:
> >
> >> Roland Perry wrote:
> >>> In message
> <memo.20080826093034.776v@cam002297.rosenstiel.co. uk>, >>> at
> 09:30:00 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel >>>
> <rosenstiel@cix.co.uk> remarked:
> >>>>> There's a Docwra's Close next to Shepreth Station. Pronounce
that!
> >>>> No harder than "Gwydir".
> >>> I can have a stab at "Gwydir" (perhaps to rhyme with "why-dear",
> >>> or is it "wider"),
> >> Assuming this is the one in Cambridge, something like "G'why-der"
> >> is about what I knew it as, rhyming with wider, but I didn't know
> >> many natives to know how they might say it - the chap I know who
> >> lives in said street is from Herefordshire. Whitefriargate in Hull
> >> is locally called Whitefrargate, with a missing middle "i", but
> >> there is no way of knowing that.
> >
> > Correct. But we have induction for outsiders round here. They have
> > to learn to pronounce Quy and Manea too.
>
> K-eye, like why? And like Brainy? Plus "keys" college, of course.

No. Like (the Bridge over the River) Kwai. Manea is the same ending as
Whittlesey, formerly Whittlesea, and still spelt thus in the station
name.

> I've heard claims that stiff-key is becoming accepted in Norfolk.

They'll be calling it Happisburgh next!

> Then there is Marylebone....

Seems straightforward to me.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article <P6qS7p7WMVtIFAR6@perry.co.uk>, roland@perry.co.uk (Roland
Perry) wrote:

> In message <memo.20080827135734.776R@cam002297.rosenstiel.co. uk>,
> at 13:57:00 on Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
> <rosenstiel@cix.co.uk> remarked:
> >> Then there is Marylebone....
> >
> >Seems straightforward to me.
>
> Silent "y". Marr-lee-bone.

I've heard it pronounced in London with a vestigial "y" (or more like "i",
I suppose) too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:13:58 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <memo.20080827135734.776R@cam002297.rosenstiel.co. uk>, at
>13:57:00 on Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel <rosenstiel@cix.co.uk>
>remarked:
>>> Then there is Marylebone....
>>
>>Seems straightforward to me.
>
>Silent "y". Marr-lee-bone.

If silent "y", then silent "l" too. It's either "Marribun" or
"Marrylebun" with a short "a" sound and the "i" almost unpronounced.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:58:02 +0100, Arthur Figgis
<afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:

>I've heard claims that stiff-key is becoming accepted in Norfolk.

Did it not once have a famous vicar?

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Alasdair.