"Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - LondonEvening Standard

On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 <adrian_auerhud...m> wrote:

> Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
> into a thru station?

Yeh lets reinstate every curve there ever was in London -

Met line to Liverpool Street main line
City Thameslink to Moorgate direct
Hotel curve and York Way
etc


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On Jul 28, 11:27 am, D7666 <d7...@m> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 <adrian_auerhud...m> wrote:
>
> > Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
> > into a thru station?
>
> Yeah let’s reinstate every curve there ever was in London -

One assumes you jest. However:
>
> Met line to Liverpool Street main line

Crossrail will do this better.

> City Thameslink to Moorgate direct

IMHO, this one has merits. Moorgate would be a much better terminus
for the SE trains that will terminate at the new Blackfriars.

> Hotel curve and York Way

New Thameslink connection to the GN does this well.
> etc
>

Whilst DfT UK is, rightly, spending billions on Crossrail, why sneeze
at a low cost Crossrail (n) at Waterloo?

1506 wrote:
> On Jul 28, 11:27 am, D7666 <d7...@m> wrote:
>> On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 <adrian_auerhud...m> wrote:
>>
>>> Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>>> into a thru station?
>>
>> Yeah let’s reinstate every curve there ever was in London -
>
> One assumes you jest. However:
>>
>> Met line to Liverpool Street main line
>
> Crossrail will do this better.
>
>> City Thameslink to Moorgate direct
>
> IMHO, this one has merits. Moorgate would be a much better terminus
> for the SE trains that will terminate at the new Blackfriars.

They're terminating at Blackfriars because there won't be enough room for
them through City Thameslink...

On 29 Jul, 00:29, 1506 <adrian_auerhud...m> wrote:
> > Met line to Liverpool Street main line
>
> Crossrail will do this better.

Depends which eastern line you were after. Crossrail will relieve the
GEML, but the WAML won't be relieved until the quad tracking (though I
suppose Crossrail could serve it via Stratford, maybe...Heathrow to
Stansted), and even then it will do nothing for the suburban services
via Bethnal Green. I wonder if diverting the H&C trains from Barking
to Enfield and/or Cheshunt via Liverpool Street and then running the
Met to Barking would be worthwhile. It'd free up some suburban
capacity at Liverpool Street if those suburban services became through
trains.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Jamie Thompson wrote:

> On 29 Jul, 00:29, 1506 <adrian_auerhud...m> wrote:
>>> Met line to Liverpool Street main line
>>
>> Crossrail will do this better.
>
> Depends which eastern line you were after. Crossrail will relieve the
> GEML, but the WAML won't be relieved until the quad tracking (though I
> suppose Crossrail could serve it via Stratford, maybe...Heathrow to
> Stansted), and even then it will do nothing for the suburban services
> via Bethnal Green. I wonder if diverting the H&C trains from Barking to
> Enfield and/or Cheshunt via Liverpool Street and then running the Met to
> Barking would be worthwhile.

Or vice versa, with the Met going to Enfield and Cheshunt, and the H&C
carrying on to Barking.

I was thinking that the A stock would be a bit more suitable for the more
widely-spaced stations of the West Anglia, but all this would happen with
S stock anyway, i suppose. In which case it doesn't make a lot of
difference, and the H&C's connections in the west (ie Paddington) are
probably more useful.

> It'd free up some suburban capacity at Liverpool Street if those
> suburban services became through trains.

Yes. It's a rather good idea. Not sure quite how you'd build the link,
though.

tom

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