Amersham

Just been reading on Wikipedia that Amersham might be going down to having
just two trains an hour? Is that not a really poor service?

thagor2008@*************** wrote:

>> AFAIK Epping Forest Council subsidises the frequent service.

> Obviously the cheques for the Ongar branch subsidy got lost in the
> post then.

I think the branch closed before the current subsidy scheme was agreed.
Until the late 1990s the line east of Loughton was all out of boundary and
not included on the standard travelcard.

Adrian wrote:

>> According to a leaflet its to do with possibly stopping 2 Amersham
>> trains per hour to allow 2 trains to run to Chesham instead throughout
>> the day thereby giving Chesham an "all day" service to central London.

> Chesham already has an "all day" service to central London, although the
> last leg of it is a shuttle from Chalfont & Latimer. Will they be running
> a shuttle to Amersham instead?

Shuttle services are never popular with a public that like through services
and don't like spending ages on station platforms or relying on connections
that they don't information about until they reach the interchange. Since
they upped the Amersham service from 2 to 4 tph I guess they've had many
more passengers who don't know which is the Chesham train waiting for ages
who'd rather kill time further south (and not run up two hour limits on
Oyster).

David Cantrell wrote:

> And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
> Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's* poor
> service.

What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?

thagor2008@*************** wrote:
> On Jul 21, 4:24 pm, "Tim Roll-Pickering" <T.C.Roll-
> Picker...@qmul.ac.uk> wrote:
>> thagor2...@*************** wrote:
>>>> AFAIK Epping Forest Council subsidises the frequent service.
>>> Obviously the cheques for the Ongar branch subsidy got lost in the
>>> post then.
>>
>> I think the branch closed before the current subsidy scheme was
>> agreed.
>
> So it wasn't subsidised then?
>
>> Until the late 1990s the line east of Loughton was all out of
>> boundary and not included on the standard travelcard.
>
> I think you mean north of loughton.

The Central Line runs Westbound-Eastbound, there is no North! :-)

<craig.richmond@virgin.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>> Out of interest how much does a single from Amersham to Zone 1 cost?

>> £5.50 daytime Oyster, £8.20 off-peak ODTC, £15 peak ODTC.

> Wow and I thought Zone 6 was expensive.

Hah. You want to see the National Rail fares for places a similar radius
out which aren't lucky enough to be on tube fares...

FFS, _parking_ at Watford Junction's £7...

Tim Roll-Pickering <T.C.Roll-Pickering@qmul.ac.uk> wrote:

> David Cantrell wrote:
>
> > And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
> > Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's* poor
> > service.
>
> What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?

The station (and Banstead) is in zone 6 for Travelcards. (Belmont is in
London and has just the one train an hour) Also no trains on Sundays.

--
Mark

David Cantrell wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:32:16PM +0100, craig.richmond@virgin.net
> wrote:
>
>> Just been reading on Wikipedia that Amersham might be going down to
>> having just two trains an hour? Is that not a really poor service?
>
> Not really. It's a lot better than most places, and there's plenty of
> places in London with that sort of service.
>
> And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
> Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's*
> poor service.

Sudbury & Harrow Road has a much poorer service.

Mark Bestley wrote:

>> > And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
>> > Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's*
>> > poor
>> > service.

>> What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?

> The station (and Banstead) is in zone 6 for Travelcards. (Belmont is in
> London and has just the one train an hour) Also no trains on Sundays.

Yes but being in the zones isn't really "covered by TfL" in my book - they
don't run the service (although wasn't there talk of the branch being
coverted to tram?) and I don't think the buses round there are in Zone 6.