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Old 1st July 2008, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the
travelcard or oyster?
 
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Old 2nd July 2008, 12:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On Jul 2, 3:38 am, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
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> Im an american which would be better to buy ie less  expensive the
> travelcard or oyster?


It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's
almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard
ON Oyster.

The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day
when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit.

A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times
the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the
peak, plus you can use it on National Rail.

They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many
zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the
daily limit.

If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London
every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal.
 
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Old 2nd July 2008, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Jul 2, 1:58 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 3:38 am, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> wrote:
>
> > Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the
> > travelcard or oyster?

>
> It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's
> almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard
> ON Oyster.
>
> The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day
> when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit.
>
> A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times
> the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the
> peak, plus you can use it on National Rail.
>
> They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many
> zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the
> daily limit.
>
> If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London
> every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal.


What would the oyster cost vs the travelcard?
 
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Old 3rd July 2008, 11:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?
 
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Old 4th July 2008, 06:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"davidmetzger0@**********" <davidmetzger0@**********>typed


> Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?


You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
through the night.

Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
unless you plan to:

1) Regularly travel before 09.30
2) use National Rail a lot,
3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

--
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
 
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Old 4th July 2008, 01:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed

>
> > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?

>
> > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > through the night.

>
> > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

>
> > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

>
> > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

>
> > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > unless you plan to:

>
> > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

>
> I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..."
>
> They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> you only use them over five days.


I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .
 
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Old 4th July 2008, 01:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
wrote:
> On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed

>
> > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?

>
> > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > through the night.

>
> > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus..

>
> > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

>
> > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

>
> > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > unless you plan to:

>
> > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

>
> > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never  ..."

>
> > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > you only use them over five days.

>
> I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-


In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.

You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
to be valid.

If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not
more than seven days, this wouldn't help.
 
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Old 4th July 2008, 01:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed

>
> > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?

>
> > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > through the night.

>
> > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

>
> > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

>
> > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

>
> > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > unless you plan to:

>
> > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

>
> > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..."

>
> > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > you only use them over five days.

>
> > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-

>
> In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.
>
> You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> to be valid.
>
> If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not
> more than seven days, this wouldn't help.


We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?
 
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On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > wrote:

>
> > > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed

>
> > > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?

>
> > > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > > through the night.

>
> > > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

>
> > > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

>
> > > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

>
> > > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > > unless you plan to:

>
> > > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

>
> > > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never  ..."

>
> > > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > > you only use them over five days.

>
> > > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-

>
> > In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> > on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> > card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> > Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.

>
> > You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> > to be valid.

>
> > If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> > for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> > the way to Wembley on the first evening.  If the whole visit is not
> > more than seven days, this wouldn't help.

>
> We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
> the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
> you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?-


Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for
an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next
day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the
card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first
journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes,
with regard to your earlier question).
 
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On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > > wrote:

>
> > > > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
> > > > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed

>
> > > > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?

>
> > > > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > > > through the night.

>
> > > > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

>
> > > > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

>
> > > > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

>
> > > > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > > > unless you plan to:

>
> > > > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

>
> > > > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..."

>
> > > > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > > > you only use them over five days.

>
> > > > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > > > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > > > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-

>
> > > In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> > > on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> > > card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> > > Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.

>
> > > You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> > > to be valid.

>
> > > If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> > > for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> > > the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not
> > > more than seven days, this wouldn't help.

>
> > We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
> > the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
> > you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?-

>
> Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for
> an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next
> day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the
> card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first
> journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes,
> with regard to your earlier question).


What will be the quickest route ?
 
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