7day 1-6 travel card

On Jul 4, 8:48 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
wrote:
> On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > wrote:
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> > > On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed
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> > > > > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?
>
> > > > > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > > > > through the night.
>
> > > > > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.
>
> > > > > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.
>
> > > > > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.
>
> > > > > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > > > > unless you plan to:
>
> > > > > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.
>
> > > > > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > > > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never  ..."
>
> > > > > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > > > > you only use them over five days.
>
> > > > > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > > > > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > > > > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-
>
> > > > In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> > > > on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> > > > card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> > > > Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.
>
> > > > You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> > > > to be valid.
>
> > > > If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> > > > for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> > > > the way to Wembley on the first evening.  If the whole visit is not
> > > > more than seven days, this wouldn't help.
>
> > > We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
> > > the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
> > > you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?-
>
> > Yes.  It will be easiest to do it at the counter.  Ask the clerk for
> > an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next
> > day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the
> > card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first
> > journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes,
> > with regard to your earlier question).
>
> What will be the quickest route ?


I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to
Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest
and least risky.

Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly
to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to
Wembley.

I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision
with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly
on time.

On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed
>
> > > > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?
>
> > > > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > > > through the night.
>
> > > > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.
>
> > > > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.
>
> > > > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.
>
> > > > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > > > unless you plan to:
>
> > > > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.
>
> > > > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..."
>
> > > > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > > > you only use them over five days.
>
> > > > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > > > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > > > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-
>
> > > In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> > > on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> > > card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> > > Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.
>
> > > You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> > > to be valid.
>
> > > If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> > > for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> > > the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not
> > > more than seven days, this wouldn't help.
>
> > We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
> > the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
> > you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?-
>
> Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for
> an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next
> day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the
> card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first
> journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes,
> with regard to your earlier question).

what would 2 bus rides cost on oyster?

On Jul 4, 9:39 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
wrote:
> On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "davidmetzg...@**********" <davidmetzg...@**********>typed
>
> > > > > > > > Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
> > > > > > > > oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
> > > > > > > > transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?
>
> > > > > > > You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
> > > > > > > bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
> > > > > > > avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
> > > > > > > through the night.
>
> > > > > > > Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
> > > > > > > Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.
>
> > > > > > > A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.
>
> > > > > > > Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.
>
> > > > > > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > > > > > unless you plan to:
>
> > > > > > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > > > > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > > > > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.
>
> > > > > > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > > > > > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never  ..."
>
> > > > > > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > > > > > you only use them over five days.
>
> > > > > I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to
> > > > > the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next
> > > > > day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .-
>
> > > > In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard
> > > > on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster
> > > > card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between
> > > > Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4.
>
> > > > You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG
> > > > to be valid.
>
> > > > If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking
> > > > for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all
> > > > the way to Wembley on the first evening.  If the whole visit is not
> > > > more than seven days, this wouldn't help.
>
> > > We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want
> > > the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that
> > > you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?-
>
> > Yes.  It will be easiest to do it at the counter.  Ask the clerk for
> > an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next
> > day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the
> > card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first
> > journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes,
> > with regard to your earlier question).
>
> what would 2 bus rides cost on oyster?-

Always 90p per bus, therefore £1.80. An Underground journey is one
price regardless of whether you change, but the price is less after
1900 hours and depends on the zones covered.

On Jul 5, 1:18 am, "Michael R N Dolbear" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote
>
>
>
> > On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
> > > unless you plan to:
>
> > > 1) Regularly travel before 09.30
> > > 2) use National Rail a lot,
> > > 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.
>
> > I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone
> > travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never
> .."
>
> > They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if
> > you only use them over five days.
>
> Can we see a rough calculation ?
>
> A 1-6 7D is £44.60 so you expect to exceed £8.92 on most of those five
> days without 1) or 3) being true ?

No I wouldn't, but the poster seems to know that he wants zone 6.
Normally I'd expect a tourist to need a seven-day zone 1 - 2 plus
enough credit to/from Heathrow.

£24.20 divided by five is £4.84 so you'd be risking 4p a day against
the difference in pounds of any one journey on NR or beyond the zones
or before 0930, plus he is going to be using it for seven days anyway.

In this case, we know that he will be staying in zone 4 and knows
London well so will probably be taking advantage of various means of
travel for all of the seven days. In the end, the poster has to look
at the fare guide and work out what's best.

Or maybe that sort of military planning would spoil the holiday and it
would be better to get the travelcard and relax.

>
> Off-peak 1-6 cap is £6.50 1-2 cap is £4.80
>
> Peak  1-6 cap is £13.30  1-2 cap is £6.30
>
> For tourists and depending on hotel location (and time you finish
> breakfast) a 1-2 (£24.20) 7D would often be better value. Buying a
> off-peak 1D is £7.00 per day but there is the complication that a
> Railcard discount to £4.80 is available to some.
>
> --
> Mike D

On Jul 5, 8:30 am, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <60bc9a3d-c18b-4c87-b54d-ef6540aee...@y21g2000hsf.************.com>, at
> 13:00:28 on Fri, 4 Jul 2008, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> remarked:
>
> >> What will be the quickest route ?
>
> >I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to
> >Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest
> >and least risky.
>
> >Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly
> >to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to
> >Wembley.
>
> >I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision
> >with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly
> >on time.
>
> Realistically, the OP will be departing Heathrow at 22.00, and it's not
> really the right time to be exploring exotic routes. However the fastest
> route above seems to be an hour, versus an hour and a quarter via Green
> Park. Looking at a map, going via central London is at least twice the
> travelling distance!
>
> Of course, some of this will depend on exactly where "near the arena"
> the OP's hotel is. A bus might actually get him at least ten minutes
> closer than a station+walk (and it's only a 1:3 guess that Wembley Park
> is the closest station).


I was thinking that he will be on PAYG on the first evening, so a
single LU journey will also be cheaper.

I Booked At wembley I'm buying 2 oyster I pay 44.60 for the 7 day
1-6 oyster card and add 1.80 for 2 buses the day b4 making it 46.40
for each . I plan to take rt 105 then connect to rt 92 does anyone
know where to transfer in the same stop ?