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Old 21st June 2008, 07:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The other day I saw a van parked on a double red line, with a "TFL Buses"
sign or similar in the window. The driver was attending to a ticket machine
at a bus stop. Is this formally allowed, or ar TfL breaking their own rules?
The red routes are supposed to aid traffic flow, not aid TfL.


 
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Old 21st June 2008, 03:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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> >The other day I saw a van parked on a double red line, with a "TFL Buses"
> >sign or similar in the window. The driver was attending to a ticket machine
> >at a bus stop. Is this formally allowed, or ar TfL breaking their own rules?
> >The red routes are supposed to aid traffic flow, not aid TfL.

>
> The drivers of vans belonging to utility companies (and similar) often
> take liberties.


Vehicles used by utility companies (statutory undertakers in the legal
parlance), plus the Royal Mail and certain others like highway
maintenance vehicles, are usually specifically exempted in the Traffic
Orders from the controls and are therefore not commiting an offence.
That's not to say that sometimes the drivers don't overstay their
welcome.

Peter Heather
 
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Old 24th June 2008, 10:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On 21 Jun, 20:28, Peter Heather <heather...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > >The other day I saw a van parked on a double red line, with a "TFL Buses"
> > >sign or similar in the window. The driver was attending to a ticket machine
> > >at a bus stop. Is this formally allowed, or ar TfL breaking their own rules?
> > >The red routes are supposed to aid traffic flow, not aid TfL.

>
> > The drivers of vans belonging to utility companies (and similar) often
> > take liberties.

>
> Vehicles used by utility companies (statutory undertakers in the legal
> parlance), plus the Royal Mail and certain others like highway
> maintenance vehicles, are usually specifically exempted in the Traffic
> Orders from the controls and are therefore not commiting an offence.
> That's not to say that sometimes the drivers don't overstay their
> welcome.
>
> Peter Heather


These vehicles are exempt only whilst the operator is carrying out
essential duties requiring the vehicle. 'Overstaying' would therefore
be an offence.
 
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Old 24th June 2008, 01:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Jun 24, 3:15 pm, umpston <umps...@m> wrote:
> On 21 Jun, 20:28, Peter Heather <heather...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >The other day I saw a van parked on a double red line, with a "TFL Buses"
> > > >sign or similar in the window. The driver was attending to a ticket machine
> > > >at a bus stop. Is this formally allowed, or ar TfL breaking their own rules?
> > > >The red routes are supposed to aid traffic flow, not aid TfL.

>
> > > The drivers of vans belonging to utility companies (and similar) often
> > > take liberties.

>
> > Vehicles used by utility companies (statutory undertakers in the legal
> > parlance), plus the Royal Mail and certain others like highway
> > maintenance vehicles, are usually specifically exempted in the Traffic
> > Orders from the controls and are therefore not commiting an offence.
> > That's not to say that sometimes the drivers don't overstay their
> > welcome.

>
> > Peter Heather

>
> These vehicles are exempt only whilst the operator is carrying out
> essential duties requiring the vehicle.  'Overstaying' would therefore
> be an offence.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I don't dispute that, but since the original question was whether a
TfL van being used to service a ticket machine (or a highway authority
vehicle being used in connection with repairing a street light) was
committing an offence, my answer that they weren't is still valid.
 
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