St P.I..L.L Impressions.

In message
<fdcc2e35-25c7-4190-a7b3-0c2d92534ab2@x69g2000hsx..com>, at
11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar <boltar2003.uk> remarked:
>> Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
>> some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
>> have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?
>
>Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
>better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
>for a train?

What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

>Any business serfs who need to be online all the time will have their
>corporate crackberry anyway.

Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.
--
Roland Perry

Paul Scott wrote:
> "Sky Rider" <sky.rider1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:1eW6j.8656$KC3.7080@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> Paul Scott wrote:
>>> Teething troubles?
>> Or maybe the fit-out of SPILL was sponsored by Microsoft.
>>
>>> The trains through the station are currently shown on LDBs as calling at
>>> St Pancras Domestic, (but not the other way round, ie STP only shows EMT
>>> trains).
>> The Journey Planner labelles StP as London St Pancras (Domestic) (STP),
>> regardless of whether a journey to/from that station involves EMT or FCC.
>> It is indeed the case that the different labels for StP are published on
>> the National Rail LDB depending on the operator.
>>
>
> But that's not happening at the moment, unless the low level platforms are
> closed, The LDB for STP is only showing the 'upstairs' services...

My point about the Journey Planner stands, and I agree with you about
the LDB. What I meant to say is that when viewing the LDB for a station
besides StP, if StP is on the list of other stations the corresponding
service calls at then it will be shown as 'London St Pancras (Domestic)'
or 'STPXBOX'. It is only when you view the LDB specifically for STP
(note that StP and STP have distinct meanings here) that only EMT
services show up.

Peter Lawrence wrote:

>
> TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
> so will not be happy.

They might have ben used to it at the old station, but that was because
they could see the open air. Surely the automatic assumption is that if
you're underground you won't be able to use your phone?

Do they work at City?

TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.

Well I will be happy - not having to put up with their (most of the time)
pointless conversations that could easily wait.

In article <LaY6j.21174$cJ3.10006@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk >,
meeee@dotcodotuk.co.uk says...

> > TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
> > so will not be happy.
>
> Do they work at City?
>

Yes

On 9 Dec, 23:49, Richardr <myn...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> > Do they work at City?
>
> Yes

It's going to be hit and miss, depending on the network, handset and
other conditions. And, between Farringdon and King's Cross TL you
wouldn't maintain a signal all the way - so it's not going to make too
much of a difference.

However, in due course, I'd expect to see proper coverage at these
stations and many more (plus inbetween) - depending on the results of
the Waterloo & City line trial.

Jonathan

On 9 Dec, 19:38, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:

> Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.

Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

Personally, I use HSDPA to get 3.6 (or soon 7.2Mbps) for myself - but
Wi-Fi still has its place. StP will be getting it, but it seems to
have been delayed.

Jonathan

On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <fdcc2e35-25c7-4190-a7b3-0c2d92534...@x69g2000hsx..com>, at
> 11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar <boltar2....uk> remarked:
>
> >> Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
> >> some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
> >> have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?
>
> >Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
> >better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
> >for a train?
>
> What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
> important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Read a book , read a paper, sleep...

>
> Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
> (instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
> Internet.

You have my sympathies. When I leave the office the job stays behind
and I go back to my real life.

B2003

In message
<22a7ca23-16b9-4c94-b0da-681df7a305e0@n20g2000hsh..com>, at
16:21:57 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, jonmorris <jonathan@whatmobile.net>
remarked:
>> Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.
>
>Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
>2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

(As for Blackberry style access, I want to be able to work on my laptop,
not browse a sunset of my email with the aid of a magnifying glass. I
used something a bit like a Blackberry a long time ago, and it
definitely has its place, although not scalable to my current
requirements).
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:54:34 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message
><22a7ca23-16b9-4c94-b0da-681df7a305e0@n20g2000hsh..com>, at
>16:21:57 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, jonmorris <jonathan@whatmobile.net>
>remarked:
>>> Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.
>>
>>Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
>>2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.
>
>And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

As do some (many?) far more reasonably-priced phones...