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Old 7th December 2007, 08:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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tonymiles@beeb.net wrote:
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> Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
> station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
> nearer Euston Road)?


That is correct.
 
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Old 7th December 2007, 10:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In message <ulc6j.3005$Hc3.681@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider <sky.rider1@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>tonymiles@beeb.net wrote:
>> Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
>> station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
>> nearer Euston Road)?

>
>That is correct.


And it's at a slight angle to the side of StPancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.

And what of platform Zero at KX?
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Old 7th December 2007, 10:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On 7 Dec, 15:09, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <ulc6j.3005$Hc3....@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, at 13:59:54 on
> Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider <sky.rid...@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>
> >tonymi...@beeb.net wrote:
> >> Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
> >> station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
> >> nearer Euston Road)?

>
> >That is correct.

>
> And it's at a slight angle to the side of St Pancras (turned clockwise).
>
> Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
> halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?
>
> I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
> the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.



Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to be
an issue at all.
 
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Old 7th December 2007, 10:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <ulc6j.3005$Hc3.681@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, at 13:59:54 on
> Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider <sky.rider1@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>> tonymiles@beeb.net wrote:
>>> Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
>>> station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
>>> nearer Euston Road)?

>>
>> That is correct.

>
> And it's at a slight angle to the side of StPancras (turned clockwise).
>
> Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
> halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?
>
> I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
> the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.
>
> And what of platform Zero at KX?


Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
planned.
 
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Old 7th December 2007, 02:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:

> Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> And what of platform Zero at KX?

>
> Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
> planned.


Just don't ask about Platform X.

Really, don't ask.

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Old 7th December 2007, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"Paul Corfield" <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:jbijl3dcafmvsds0ij4e3plmn2dacam6e1@...
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
> <maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote:
>


> >
> >My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
> >tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
> >escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
> >currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
> >main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
> >stairs.

>
> It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
> load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
> Picc Line tunnel.


Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before the
BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the Kings Cross
Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where it was.

When the Metropolitan and Circle platforms were alongside what is now Kings
Cross Thameslink there was said to be a subway to that station from the
Kings Cross concourse. Can any remains of it be seen anywhere, and in
particular, was any of it incorporated into the Piccadilly to Kings Cross
Thameslink subway?

Peter


 
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Old 8th December 2007, 01:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:28:32 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
<nick@leverton.org> wrote:

>In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0712071945030.7716@urchin.earth.li> ,
>Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>>On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>> And what of platform Zero at KX?
>>>
>>> Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
>>> planned.

>>
>>Just don't ask about Platform X.
>>
>>Really, don't ask.

>
>And then there's platform f(x) which is for advanced pupils at Hogwarts ...


I beg to differentiate.

f'(x).
 
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Old 8th December 2007, 01:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 19:45:28 +0000, Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:
>
>> Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>> And what of platform Zero at KX?

>>
>> Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
>> planned.

>
>Just don't ask about Platform X.


That would be dangerous... having platforms KXX and KXY, if they ever
were to meet. Where would all the baby platforms go?
 
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Old 8th December 2007, 09:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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James Farrar wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 19:45:28 +0000, Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>> And what of platform Zero at KX?
>>>
>>> Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going
>>> ahead as planned.

>>
>> Just don't ask about Platform X.

>
> That would be dangerous... having platforms KXX and KXY, if they ever
> were to meet. Where would all the baby platforms go?


In the new creche for baby platforms at Shepherd's Bush.

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Old 9th December 2007, 06:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:47:28 -0000, "Peter Masson"
<peter.masson1@> wrote:

>
>"Paul Corfield" <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
>news:jbijl3dcafmvsds0ij4e3plmn2dacam6e1@.. .
>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
>> <maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote:
>>

>
>> >
>> >My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
>> >tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
>> >escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
>> >currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
>> >main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
>> >stairs.

>>
>> It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
>> load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
>> Picc Line tunnel.

>
>Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before the
>BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the Kings Cross
>Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where it was.
>

IIRC either St Chads Place or the even shorter road between Grays Inn
Road and Caledonian Road.

>When the Metropolitan and Circle platforms were alongside what is now Kings
>Cross Thameslink there was said to be a subway to that station from the
>Kings Cross concourse. Can any remains of it be seen anywhere, and in
>particular, was any of it incorporated into the Piccadilly to Kings Cross
>Thameslink subway?
>
>Peter
>


 
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