Lack of GOBLin connections

On 27 Nov, 20:28, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:42:17 -0800 (PST), Mizter T <mizte...@>
> wrote:
>
> >One useful change not mentioned yet (in this thread at least, though
> >we've certainly been here before!) is the Upper Holloway to Archway/
> >Northern line (non-)interchange.
>
> >What is the best term for describing such an interchange - an out-of-
> >station interchange might be a good one, but in ticketing terminology
> >that means a journey where a change that involves transfer between
> >stations on the street can be completed on a single ticket. Using the
> >phrase 'out-of-station interchange' where through tickets might not be
> >valid would perhaps just serve to confuse things.
>
> Since PAYG was extended to the Overground there are 3 new valid out of
> station interchanges for PAYG purposes. These are
>
> West Hampstead LU / West Hampstead NLL / West Hampstead Thameslink
>
> Upper Holloway / Archway LU
>
> Leytonstone High Road / Leytonstone LU.
>
> --
> Paul C
>
> Admits to working for London Underground!

Where are these out of station interchanges listed? They aren't
always shown on the Tube map etc.

Jonathan

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:07:31 -0800 (PST), j.p.harris@talk21.com wrote:

>On 27 Nov, 20:28, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>> Since PAYG was extended to the Overground there are 3 new valid out of
>> station interchanges for PAYG purposes. These are
>>
>> West Hampstead LU / West Hampstead NLL / West Hampstead Thameslink
>>
>> Upper Holloway / Archway LU
>>
>> Leytonstone High Road / Leytonstone LU.
>Where are these out of station interchanges listed? They aren't
>always shown on the Tube map etc.

I haven't seen them formally listed. The information was posted on
another group I read by someone who is close to all of the detail on
Oyster and PAYG.

Please don't complain about lack of publicity - I was simply sharing
some information that was relevant to part of the thread.
--
Paul C

Admits to working for London Underground!

On 27 Nov, 21:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" <T.C.Roll-Picker...@qmul.ac.uk>
wrote:

>
> It may be true for the Walthamstow half of things, but the Vic is pretty
> useless east of there!

Yes, a journey I have to make occasionally is Manor House -> Barking,
*walking* to Harringey Green Lanes and then taking the GOBLIN to
Barking is by far the most pleasant way to do it.

Francis

bowroadukm wrote:

> Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an
> awkward subway WB,

Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it?

Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a
through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak.

"Tim Roll-Pickering" <T.C.Roll-Pickering@qmul.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:5r51i1F12s0coU1@mid....
> bowroadukm wrote:
>
>> Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an
>> awkward subway WB,
>
> Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it?
....

Eastbound, unless it's changed recently.
--
David Biddulph

David Biddulph wrote:

>>> Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an
>>> awkward subway WB,

>> Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it?

> Eastbound, unless it's changed recently.

Oops, mea culpa. But certainly a more useful interchange in one direction
than a subway from both would be.

Paul Scott wrote:

>> Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a
>> through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak.

> Expect if through services off Goblin towards WJ ever happen (and it is in
> one of the proposals), the bay will be closed and at least one platform
> moved onto the westbound through line, possibly platforms on both lines...

Is it viable to make the through NLL platforms the reversing point for
GOBLIN trains? Whilst I can see a through service happening, I'd be
sceptical if it were for all services.

And do the track connections actually allow the GOBLIN to switch to the NLL
east of the platforms? My recollection is that they don't physically connect
at all on that side.

> > Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it?

Yes if you're going WB from the GobLin to the NLL, the interchange is
awkward via street level, if you're EB it's virtually cross-platform,

<bowroadukm> wrote in message
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>
>> > Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't
>> > it?
>
> Yes if you're going WB from the GobLin to the NLL, the interchange is
> awkward via street level, if you're EB it's virtually cross-platform,

So in response to the question which you quoted, I think the answer you
intended was "No", rather than "Yes"?
--
David Biddulph