Camden Road - London Overground

In the December edition of Modern Railways John Sully reports that TfL
and Network Rail have decided on the track layout for the section from
Dalston Kingsland to Camden Road following the opening of the ELL to
Highbury and Islington. The proposals include a turn back platform at
Camden Road. Alwaystouchout had previously reported that the service
pattern on the former NLL was going to be:
quote
" Phase 1
This would need to be delivered before the Olympics, using the
infrastructure enhancements mentioned above.
· 4tph from Clapham Junction to Stratford
· 2tph from Gospel Oak to Barking (with additional peak trains)
· 4tph from Richmond to Stratford
This would result in 8tph between Willesden Junction and Stratford.
Phase 2
A move to the second phase of services could take place after the
Olympics, and is dependent on the Bakerloo line takeover of Euston-
Watford local services to remove trains between Queen's Park and
Euston.
In their place, trains would operate from Queen's Park via Kilburn
High Road and South Hampstead to Camden Road (using what is currently
a freight-only link at Primrose Hill) and then on to Stratford.
Clapham Junction trains would be diverted to Barking instead of
Stratford.
This would result in a service pattern with
· 4tph from Stratford to Richmond,
· 4tph from Barking to Clapham Junction
· 4tph from Queen's Park to Stratford via South Hampstead.
The switch from Phase 1 to Phase 2 would enhance Gospel Oak to Barking
services to the Mayor's "minimum" turn-up-and-go frequency of 4tph. It
would also improve services to Kilburn High Road and South Hampstead,
and provide a new link from these places and Queen's Park to Camden
and Islington. However, services at Kentish Town West would drop from
8tph to 4tph along with through-services from Willesden Junction and
West Hampstead to Camden, Islington and Stratford."
unquote

No trains were originally planned to terminate at Camden Road so have
I missed something or has the plan be changed - if so to what?
Allowing for the fact that freight services over the route will
probably not diminish as container trains from Harwich and Felixstowe
will probably be replaced by trains from the newly approved Thames
Gateway at Thameshaven I cannot see how the proposed layout increases
or indeed maximises capacity along this key bottle neck section.

On Nov 26, 10:20 am, Mwmbwls <robertg.robin...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> No trains were originally planned to terminate at Camden Road so have
> I missed something or has the plan be changed - if so to what?
> Allowing for the fact that freight services over the route will
> probably not diminish as container trains from Harwich and Felixstowe
> will probably be replaced by trains from the newly approved Thames
> Gateway at Thameshaven I cannot see how the proposed layout increases
> or indeed maximises capacity along this key bottle neck section.
>

It makes sense in terms of destinations. Camden is somewhere that
people from east and south east London might actually want to get to,
in a way that Barnsbury isn't.

Jonn

Mwmbwls wrote:
> In the December edition of Modern Railways John Sully reports that TfL
> and Network Rail have decided on the track layout for the section from
> Dalston Kingsland to Camden Road following the opening of the ELL to
> Highbury and Islington. The proposals include a turn back platform at
> Camden Road.
>
> No trains were originally planned to terminate at Camden Road so have
> I missed something or has the plan be changed - if so to what?

There is no harm in having a turnback or two dotted around for occasional
use, otherwise any problem shuts the entire line.

On Nov 26, 11:51 pm, Mr Thant
<maha.thray.sithu.u.th...@> wrote:
> Thanks - that's the one. And that's a good point. As brixtonite says
> upthread, it would be waste not to run all ELL trains to Highbury
> given the planned infrastructure. All though that would mean Higbhbury-
> Dalston going from 12 carriages per hour now to 80.

As John Rowland points out upthread reversing facilities are useful
for maintaining operational robustness. Have any diagrams for the
proposed layout at Dalston Junction been published? Is the full width
of the former six platform NLR station still available?. Are there to
be any off peak stabling sidings along the ELLX?