National Rail tickets from LUL stations

Mr Thant wrote:
> What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
> Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
> run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
> at ordinary LUL stations?

Not good. Kentish Town is a particular nuisance as they can't dispense
return tickets for NR trains that actually stop there.

ESB

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Mr Thant wrote:

> What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
> Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
> run by LUL?

Utter failure, i'm afraid. Highbury & Islington is my battleground here.

> Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards at ordinary
> LUL stations?

Yes, ISTR doing that.

tom

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"Mr Thant" <maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
> Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
> run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
> at ordinary LUL stations?
>

I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off limits
to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre Pay daily
capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

Paul

"Paul Scott" <notvalidpmscott@> wrote in message
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>
> "Mr Thant" <maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote in message
> news:1190801768.992898.241400@d55g2000hsg. o...
>> Hi,
>>
>> What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
>> Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
>> run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
>> at ordinary LUL stations?
>>
>
> I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off limits
> to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre Pay
> daily capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

You can still buy paper One Day Travelcards from LUL stations and until
every NR station in London is equipped for Oyster they will have to continue
selling them.

Peter Smyth

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:03:10 -0700, Mr Thant
<maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote:

>On Sep 26, 4:05 pm, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> Isn't this is a slightly unfair question given that LU offices, even
>> where there is a NR service at the location, have always had a
>> restricted ticket range and are not subject to the same obligations as
>> normal NR stations that have ticket offices?
>
>I don't mean where it's "at the same location", I mean where the LUL
>ticket office and machines are the only way through the barrier onto
>NR services. Are you meant to be able to buy the same tickets here as
>at an NR ticket office? I'm never quite sure.

So to test an example - Highbury and Islington should be able to sell a
GNER "Loony Woony Toony" [1] ticket to Newcastle upon Tyne because you
can catch a FCC train at Highbury and then eventually change on a GNER
service at Stevenage or Peterborough?

Or Kentish Town should be able sell you a ticket to Kettering because
you can change from FCC to Midland Mainline at Luton?


As I have already said LU stations (used to be called Section "T"
stations when I was involved in all this years back) can only sell to a
limited range of destinations (certainly not the entire NR network), can
only sell a limited range of types, can only deal with a limited range
of discounts and certainly cannot do things like reservations. Part of
this is down to history and part of this is down to the fact that I
imagine someone wanting a £4 ticket to Brixton or Dagenham or to add £30
to their Oyster card is not remotely interested in being stuck behind
someone taking 20 minutes for a transaction. There is also the
technological and staff training overhead in dealing with a massively
complex NR ticket set up for very little benefit indeed.

It is going to be very interesting to see what happens under the
Overground set up - I imagine that current TOC locations will see no
change but what will happen at "transferred to LU control" stations like
Kew Gardens or Queens Park I do not know. I imagine London Travelwatch
are already on the warpath after their previous campaign about
Stratford.

<checks>

Surprisingly there is nothing in the news section.


[1] not a real ticket type obviously but it has a certain ring don't you
think?
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Paul C


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"Peter Smyth" <psmythREMOVE@THISukf.net> wrote in message
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> "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmscott@> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mr Thant" <maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@> wrote in message
>> news:1190801768.992898.241400@d55g2000hsg. o...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
>>> Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
>>> run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
>>> at ordinary LUL stations?
>>>
>>
>> I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off
>> limits to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre
>> Pay daily capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...
>
> You can still buy paper One Day Travelcards from LUL stations and until
> every NR station in London is equipped for Oyster they will have to
> continue selling them.
>

Then the only reason I have an Oyster card at all is because some prat in an
LU ticket office at Baker St told me last year they were no longer selling
day travelcards, and if I wanted one I'd have to go to a NR station...

Maybe he'd been too taken in by the Oyster training course...

Paul

In message <1190821261.169232.61430@w3g2000hsg..c om>,
sehinde_taiwo.uk writes
[snip]
>Certain LUL stations refuse to even though they are shared. For
>example Highbury and Islington wont sell you any railcard discounted
>tickets.

I've bought discounted tickets for FCC stations both at H&I and at
Moorgate, so I don't buy the "any" statement. Where were you going?
(picking going with PaulC's theme).


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Paul G
Typing from Barking

Barry Salter wrote:

> I bought an NSE-discounted Travelcard there once, and the clerk issued
> it as a Y-P one, and refused to reissue it correctly, saying "Well the
> discount's the same, so it's okay", or words to that effect!

So what did you do?
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Michael Hoffman