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Old 2nd July 2007, 12:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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On Jul 2, 4:41 pm, John B <s...@johnband.org> wrote:
> On 2 Jul, 09:57, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > The one day travelcard isn't a season ticket, so to get an extension,
> > I think you have to travel on train that stops at the boundary.
> > "Southern" trains to Gatwick will stop at East Croydon, which is in
> > zone 5, so that's where the extension would have to be from.

>
> No - you're confusing two separate issues:
>
> 1) if you have a season ticket, you can combine it with a point-to-
> point ticket from the first stop beyond the season ticket's validity,
> and the train doesn't need to stop at that station.
>
> 2) if you have any kind of Travelcard (whether period or one-day), you
> can buy a ticket from Boundary Zone X, where X is the furthest zone of
> your Travelcard, to your destination, and the train doesn't need to
> stop in zone X.
>
> In other words, a z1-6 Travelcard and a ticket from Boundary Zone 6 to
> [wherever] will indeed be valid on any train from London Terminals to
> [wherever], as long as the extension ticket is for the right route,
> TOC, validity, etc.



Ah. I thought one of them had to be a season. Coulsdon South it is
then ...

 
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Old 2nd July 2007, 01:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On Jul 2, 6:05 pm, asdf <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:54:51 -0700, MIG wrote:
> >> No - you're confusing two separate issues:

>
> >> 1) if you have a season ticket, you can combine it with a point-to-
> >> point ticket from the first stop beyond the season ticket's validity,
> >> and the train doesn't need to stop at that station.

>
> >> 2) if you have any kind of Travelcard (whether period or one-day), you
> >> can buy a ticket from Boundary Zone X, where X is the furthest zone of
> >> your Travelcard, to your destination, and the train doesn't need to
> >> stop in zone X.

>
> >> In other words, a z1-6 Travelcard and a ticket from Boundary Zone 6 to
> >> [wherever] will indeed be valid on any train from London Terminals to
> >> [wherever], as long as the extension ticket is for the right route,
> >> TOC, validity, etc.

>
> >Ah. I thought one of them had to be a season. Coulsdon South it is
> >then ...

>
> No, Boundary Zone 6. A ticket from Coulsdon South wouldn't be valid
> unless the train stopped there



Would it make any difference, given that Coulsdon South is within zone
6 and you are covered there? I ask because I've noticed that when you
ask for a ticket from the boundary, the clerk looks up the last
station to find the fare, but then sometimes sells a ticket from the
boundary and sometimes sells a ticket from the named station.

I've never bothered to argue except when it's a return and I want to
come back by a different route.

 
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Old 2nd July 2007, 05:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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<google@feeney.screaming.net> wrote in message
news:1183356338.013049.83380@k79g2000hse. ...
> On 2 Jul, 04:25, bc0...@ wrote:
>> I will be traveling from the States to France by way of London. I
>> arrive at Heathrow on a Sunday morning at @6:30 am and depart out of
>> Gatwick at @5:00pm. My plans were to take the Tube into London for
>> lunch and a little sightseeing, then take the train out to Gatwick.
>> Does this sound practical? I realize that the Express runs between
>> airports, but with so much time, I wanted to see London.
>>
>> Also, is there any place in London to store one bag while seeing the
>> city?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>
> Sounds fine to me.
>
> My recommendation is that after clearing customs at Heathrow you take
> the Picadilly Line to Baron's Court station. From there it's a cross-
> platform change to the Eastbound District Line to Victoria station. At
> Victoria there's a left-luggage facility.
>
> When you've finished sightseeing, after collecting your bags, you can
> take the Gatwick Express from Victoria to Gatwick station.
>
> I suggest buying a zones 1-6 travelcard when you get to Heathrow. This
> will give you unlimited travel on rail, tube and buses within central
> London but won't get you to Gatwick. I think you'll need to purchase a
> separate ticket for the Gatwick Express but maybe somebody else can
> advise as to whether you can save some money by using the Travelcard
> to the edge of your its validity and then buying another ticket to
> cover the rest of your journey. To save hassle, I suggest sorting out
> a ticket for journey to Gatwick when you arrive at Victoria in the
> morning.
>
> Re timing... It can take a while to get out of Heathrow (maybe an
> hour) and I think it will take about an hour to get to Victoria.
>
> Assuming you need to check in 2 hours before your flight, probably
> you'll want to get a train from Victoria about 2.15pm (it takes 30
> minutes from Victoria to Gatwick). So probably you'll want to get to
> Victoria just before 2pm to retrieve your bags.
>
> Hope this helps.


Would it possibly be easier to get the connection bus from Heathrow to
Gatwick, check in ( if it is possible to check in so early)and then get a
return ticket from Gatwick to Victoria or London Bridge. The advantages
would be:-
a) you wouldn't have the worry of being late to check in as you would have
already done it and you would have no bags to carry around
b) you could stay later in London.

Philip

I have never tried it but it might be less of a hassle
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Phil wrote:
> <google@feeney.screaming.net> wrote in message
> news:1183356338.013049.83380@k79g2000hse. ...
>> On 2 Jul, 04:25, bc0...@ wrote:
>>> I will be traveling from the States to France by way of London. I
>>> arrive at Heathrow on a Sunday morning at @6:30 am and depart out of
>>> Gatwick at @5:00pm. My plans were to take the Tube into London for
>>> lunch and a little sightseeing, then take the train out to Gatwick.
>>> Does this sound practical? I realize that the Express runs between
>>> airports, but with so much time, I wanted to see London.

>
> Would it possibly be easier to get the connection bus from Heathrow to
> Gatwick, check in ( if it is possible to check in so early)and then get a
> return ticket from Gatwick to Victoria or London Bridge. The advantages
> would be:-
> a) you wouldn't have the worry of being late to check in as you would have
> already done it and you would have no bags to carry around
> b) you could stay later in London.


Disadvantages:

a) time
b) money

Also, many airlines will not let you check in so early.
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Michael Hoffman
 
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