Stagecoach win East Midlands franchise

On Jun 22, 9:18 am, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> * The Community Rail service between Matlock and Derby will be increased
> to every hour and extended directly to Nottingham.

Wonder how long that is guaranteed for if it becomes a big cash-
waster?

> Therefore discounts in renewal for season tickets valid between one
> month and one year in compensation for poor punctuality and reliability
> will be replaced by compensation based on delays to individual journeys,
> known as Delay/Repay. Under the new system, all passengers will be
> entitled to claim compensation for all delays, whatever their cause.

Interesting. Perhaps this is in the hope that it will look good but
at the same time reduce claims as people won't be bothered to make
them?

Neil

Are there any secret plans to raise off peak fares or to issue guards
with instructions to treat passengers wanting to buy tickets on board
as fare dodgers - see thread concerning SWT. I think we should be
told.

On Jun 22, 10:25 am, Bob <robertg.robin...@virgin.net> wrote:
> Are there any secret plans to raise off peak fares or to issue guards
> with instructions to treat passengers wanting to buy tickets on board
> as fare dodgers - see thread concerning SWT. I think we should be
> told.

Unregulated fares = off peak fares, or as good as.

Neil

On Jun 22, 9:20 am, Chris Tolley <c...@supanet.com> wrote:
> Paul Corfield wrote:

>
> Once again, we see the magic of the franchise bidding system at work.
> Promise a huge premium to win the bid, then get the customers to foot
> the bill for it.

Who else do you think is going to pay for it? Don't forget that as use
of the network increases off-peak is becoming almost as busy as the
peak. Off-peak fares were low to encourage people to fill otherwise
empty seats. If there aren't so many empty seats...

I think you'll still see very low bargain fares available - it's
mainly the off-peak walk-up fares that'll be affected.


On another topic entirely, this announcement means that National
Express - once the biggest owner of TOCs is now down to one railway
and c2c. (I expect these two TOCs to be merged, making the name "one"
strangely prophetic!)

W14_Fishbourne wrote:
> (I expect these two TOCs to be merged, making the name "one"
> strangely prophetic!)


One2c or c-2-1 surely?

On Jun 22, 10:37 am, W14_Fishbourne <w14_fishbou...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> On another topic entirely, this announcement means that National
> Express - once the biggest owner of TOCs is now down to one railway
> and c2c. (I expect these two TOCs to be merged, making the name "one"
> strangely prophetic!)

They might still get XC and/or East Coast. "two" and "three"
perhaps? ;)

Neil

In message <nrtm73db2eot6a8cmag77vs2optbpfp7q4@>, at 08:18:55 on
Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Paul Corfield <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> remarked:

>* A new hourly service between Kettering and London, increasing the
>number of off peak services on the midland main line to five trains per
>hour. It has also been agreed in principle to extend this service to a
>new station at Corby from December 2008. This removes the need to split
>and join trains at Leicester.

I don't follow this at all. What removes the need to split trains at
Leicester - the Kettering service, or the extension to Corby? And why
does the new Kettering service mean they "don't need to" run one stopper
from London to Leicester per hour, then send two separate sections to
Derby and Nottingham. If anything it would make it *more* of the right
thing to do.

>* The new station at East Midlands Parkway will be served by two trains
>an hour from December 2008,

One fast and one stopper perhaps? Alternating each between Derby and
Nottingham, or what?

And they'd better get cracking - still no sign of them breaking ground.

>* More investment including more than £5m on improvements to stations,
>at least 1250 extra car parking spaces

Double-counting the parking spaces at EMP, perhaps?

>and the introduction of smart card technology by 2010.

Oyster, or something else?

>* 50% of the price paid for a single-leg journey delayed by between 30
>and 59 minutes;
>
>* 100% of the price paid for a single-leg journey delayed by between 60
>and 119 minutes; and
>
>* 100% of the price paid for a return journey delayed by more than 119
>minutes.

So you can "tot up" the delays on a return trip, presumably.
--
Roland Perry

In message <1182500753.116934.53170@u2g2000hsc..c om>, at
01:25:53 on Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Bob <robertg.robinson@virgin.net>
remarked:
>Are there any secret plans to raise off peak fares or to issue guards
>with instructions to treat passengers wanting to buy tickets on board
>as fare dodgers - see thread concerning SWT. I think we should be
>told.

MML already operate a fierce "no ticket = Fare Dodger" policy. Have done
for about a year.

--
Roland Perry

"Neil Williams" <pacer142@> wrote in message
news:1182500123.952586.146750@c77g2000hse. o...
> On Jun 22, 9:18 am, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>> Therefore discounts in renewal for season tickets valid between one
>> month and one year in compensation for poor punctuality and reliability
>> will be replaced by compensation based on delays to individual journeys,
>> known as Delay/Repay. Under the new system, all passengers will be
>> entitled to claim compensation for all delays, whatever their cause.
>
> Interesting. Perhaps this is in the hope that it will look good but
> at the same time reduce claims as people won't be bothered to make
> them?
>

Thats definitely the conclusion we came to yesterday in the thread 'Season
Ticket Delay compensation'...

Paul

In message <1182501445.728285.112970@o61g2000hsh. .com>, at
01:37:25 on Fri, 22 Jun 2007, W14_Fishbourne
<w14_fishbourne@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>I think you'll still see very low bargain fares available - it's
>mainly the off-peak walk-up fares that'll be affected.

So Saver fares aren't regulated? Is it just the CDRs which are.
--
Roland Perry