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Old 20th June 2007, 04:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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On 19 Jun, 17:41, "clyde dempster" <clyde.demps...@ntlworld.com>
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> A train operator who developed eyesight problems, for example, would be
> unable to continue in employment as a train operator but would not receive
> an ill-health pension under the proposed changes if he or she remained fit
> for some other form of work.


And the problem with that is?

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Old 20th June 2007, 06:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On 20 Jun, 10:50, "clyde dempster" <clyde.demps...@ntlworld.com>
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> Hello
>
> Going from £30,000 a year to £18,000 a year may cause a few problems i would
> have thought.


Well maybe we should have a compensation scheme for footballers too.
If they bust their ankles and can't play in the premier anymore and
have to get a job driving a bus they should still get their 500K a
year sickness pension right? Or someone who gets eyestrain stairing at
a VDU all day and so can't do office work anymore should still get the
full sickness pension even though they could get another job which
doesn't require them to use the computer? Where do you draw the line?

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Old 20th June 2007, 06:37 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Boltar wrote:

> Well maybe we should have a compensation scheme for footballers too.
> If they bust their ankles and can't play in the premier anymore and
> have to get a job driving a bus they should still get their 500K a
> year sickness pension right?


If a footballer can get his employer to agree to this, more power to them.

> Or someone who gets eyestrain stairing at
> a VDU all day and so can't do office work anymore should still get the
> full sickness pension even though they could get another job which
> doesn't require them to use the computer?


Ditto.

> Where do you draw the line?


What the market will bear.
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Old 20th June 2007, 06:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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On 20 Jun, 11:37, Michael Hoffman <cam.ac...@mh391.invalid> wrote:
> Boltar wrote:
> > Well maybe we should have a compensation scheme for footballers too.
> > If they bust their ankles and can't play in the premier anymore and
> > have to get a job driving a bus they should still get their 500K a
> > year sickness pension right?

>
> If a footballer can get his employer to agree to this, more power to them.
>
> > Or someone who gets eyestrain stairing at
> > a VDU all day and so can't do office work anymore should still get the
> > full sickness pension even though they could get another job which
> > doesn't require them to use the computer?

>
> Ditto.
>
> > Where do you draw the line?

>
> What the market will bear.


I doubt it will bear every employee who signed off "sick" , scrounging
off their employers pension scheme until they die. Check out whats
happening to the US car makers if you want to find out the end result.

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Old 20th June 2007, 07:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Boltar wrote:
> On 20 Jun, 11:37, Michael Hoffman <cam.ac...@mh391.invalid> wrote:
>> Boltar wrote:
>>> Well maybe we should have a compensation scheme for footballers too.
>>> If they bust their ankles and can't play in the premier anymore and
>>> have to get a job driving a bus they should still get their 500K a
>>> year sickness pension right?

>> If a footballer can get his employer to agree to this, more power to them.
>>
>>> Or someone who gets eyestrain stairing at
>>> a VDU all day and so can't do office work anymore should still get the
>>> full sickness pension even though they could get another job which
>>> doesn't require them to use the computer?

>> Ditto.
>>
>>> Where do you draw the line?

>> What the market will bear.

>
> I doubt it will bear every employee who signed off "sick" , scrounging
> off their employers pension scheme until they die.


That's for the employer and the employee to decide.

> Check out whats happening to the US car makers if you want to find out the end
> result.


Something that the employers should consider.

A big part of the problems of the U.S. automakers, of course, is that
they have to provide health care for their current and former employees
as well. This is extremely expensive in the U.S.
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