Northern line near collision

Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>
> This was in the evening rush hour so it was potentially disastrous.

On a Sunday? ;-)

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:57:44 GMT, "Jack Taylor" <Jack@Carney.co.uk>
wrote:

>Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>>
>> This was in the evening rush hour so it was potentially disastrous.
>
>On a Sunday? ;-)

You're right, I didn't check the day.

On Jun 14, 4:34 pm, Christopher A.Lee <c...@> wrote:
>
> One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
> end of the platform.

You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"? What a . I hope he's fired just like any bus or truck
driver would be if they drove the wrong way down a main road though
I'm sure Bob Crowe will crawl out from under his rock at some point
and try and blame LU or Metronet for it.

B2003

"Boltar" <boltar2003.uk> wrote in message
news:1181843555.547072.290680@i38g2000prf. o...
> On Jun 14, 4:34 pm, Christopher A.Lee <c...@> wrote:
>>
>> One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
>> end of the platform.
>
> You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
> do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
> mean green"? What a . I hope he's fired just like any bus or truck
> driver would be if they drove the wrong way down a main road though
> I'm sure Bob Crowe will crawl out from under his rock at some point
> and try and blame LU or Metronet for it.
>
Probably an ASLEF member.

On Jun 14, 9:37 pm, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> >> You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
> >> do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
> >> mean green"?
> > Um, no signal *does* mean green. Unlit signal - not the same thing -
> > means red.
>
> Um, actually, no signal means that whatever the last signal meant is
> still in effect. Like, y'know, yellow.
> --
> Mark Brader | "Red lights are not my concern.
> Toronto | I am a driver, not a policeman."
> m...@vex.net | --statement made after collision, 1853


Not if it is in the opposite direction!

On 14 Jun, 21:20, "Clive D. W. Feather" <c...@on-the-
train.> wrote:
>
> Um, no signal *does* mean green. Unlit signal - not the same thing -
> means red.

Does it?
No signal when there should be one, as you pointed out = unlit signal
= red.

On 14 Jun, 13:34, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@> wrote:
> What might have happened here then


'London Underground insisted that such incidents, while worrying to
the public, were "incredibly rare." '

Nice to know that LU apparantly sees no reason to feel worried itself.
I'm not convinced that the driver of the stationery northbound train
would be entirely indifferent to the unexpected approach of a train
proceeding towards him from the north. Filling his pants would perhaps
be a more likely scenario. Have there not also been "incredibly rare"
cases of trains "running away" in the "wrong" direction unchecked
because trainstop devices are set up on the premise that if trains are
going to do something naughty they'll always have the courtesy to do
it whilst proceeding forwards in the correct direction of travel?

--
gordon

Nick Leverton wrote:
>>>
>>> 1(9) Accidents or incidents
>>>
>> Hints and allegations?
>>
>
> Watch out for that boy ... no, the one in the bubble over there ...

But have you noticed the way the camera follows you in slo-mo?

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:27:32 +0100, "Paul Scott"
<notvalidpmscott@> wrote:

>From RAIB web site:
>
>"At approx 17:35 hrs a northbound Northern Line train was incorrectly
>signalled into the High Barnet platform at Camden Town when it was scheduled
>to go to Edgware. To minimise passenger delay the following High Barnet
>train was signalled into the Edgware platform, and arrangements were made to
>exchange passengers and crews between the two trains. When the train in the
>High Barnet platform was ready to depart it set off in a southerly direction
>for a short distance; the driver saw the lights of the next northbound
>train, which was standing at a signal, and stopped the train."
>
>A nice clear explanation for the layman

Does that mean the driver got in the cab at the wrong end of the
train?

On 14 Jun, 21:20, "Clive D. W. Feather" <c...@on-the-
train.> wrote:
> In article <1181843555.547072.290...@i38g2000prf. .com>,
> Boltar <boltar2....uk> writes
>
> >> One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
> >> end of the platform.
> >You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
> >do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
> >mean green"?
>
> Um, no signal *does* mean green.

I very much doubt that rule applies at a station.

B2003