St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)

Does anyone know if the St Pancras Thameslink platforms (which open at the
end of the year) will have direct access to the underground via the western
ticket hall?

Is there a drawing available on line showing the position of the Thameslink
platforms w.r.t. the rest of the site?

Paul S

Mr Thant wrote:
> On Jun 11, 1:04 pm, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
> wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the St Pancras Thameslink platforms (which open at the
>> end of the year) will have direct access to the underground via the western
>> ticket hall?
>
> No, they'll be essentially under the Midland Mainline station at the
> northwest corner of the site. You'll come up from ground level just
> underneath the current MML escalators, where you can head south
> through St Pancras to the Western ticket hall, or (one day) east a bit
> then down into the new tunnel to the Northern ticket hall.
There better be a very wide gateline then - at least at KCM you can
avoid the gates if you wish to use the nearby LUL station. Damn that
non-existant travelator!

On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
be called St Pancras International.

"Sky Rider" <sky.rider1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:avebi.378$Yc4.113@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> Mr Thant wrote:
>> On Jun 11, 1:04 pm, "Paul Scott" <notvalidpmsc...@>
>> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if the St Pancras Thameslink platforms (which open at
>>> the
>>> end of the year) will have direct access to the underground via the
>>> western
>>> ticket hall?
>>
>> No, they'll be essentially under the Midland Mainline station at the
>> northwest corner of the site. You'll come up from ground level just
>> underneath the current MML escalators, where you can head south
>> through St Pancras to the Western ticket hall, or (one day) east a bit
>> then down into the new tunnel to the Northern ticket hall.
> There better be a very wide gateline then - at least at KCM you can avoid
> the gates if you wish to use the nearby LUL station. Damn that
> non-existant travelator!
>
> On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above) be
> called St Pancras International.

Thats why I put (Midland Rd) in brackets...

Paul

On Jun 11, 5:11 pm, Sky Rider <sky.rid...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> There better be a very wide gateline then - at least at KCM you can
> avoid the gates if you wish to use the nearby LUL station. Damn that
> non-existant travelator!
>
> On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
> be called St Pancras International.

Does this mean the platforms will be numbered 14 & 15?

--
Abi

In message <avebi.378$Yc4.113@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, at 16:11:50 on Mon,
11 Jun 2007, Sky Rider <sky.rider1@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
>be called St Pancras International.

Will there be any other station in the UK with four distinct sets of
platforms (not counting LUL platforms)?

Waterloo perhaps has three: Main concourse, East (or is that different
station altogether) and Eurostar (even post E* they might be entered
separately). Manchester Piccadilly has two, as does London Bridge; any
other offers for three or more?
--
Roland Perry

On Jun 11, 5:38 pm, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:

> any
> other offers for three or more?


Ashford International - CTRL platforms split the Up and Down
domestics.


Stratford - dodgy one this - it may or not be 2 or 3 today changing to
a different 2 or 3 on completion of rebuild - and I am counting
neother LU or DLR.

2 today for certain are the GE main lines and the low level NLL
platforms - but some people I think might consider todays 11/12 to be
seperate. After rebuild is completed there will be (I think) 2 - the
GE main lines and the CTRL lines - and a third again depending on how
you count things - the replacement NLL platform group (the low level -
I think - is completely gone).

--
Nick

On Jun 11, 5:38 pm, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <avebi.378$Yc4....@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, at 16:11:50 on Mon,
> 11 Jun 2007, Sky Rider <sky.rid...@ntlworld.com> remarked:
>
> >On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
> >be called St Pancras International.
>
> Will there be any other station in the UK with four distinct sets of
> platforms (not counting LUL platforms)?
>
> Waterloo perhaps has three: Main concourse, East (or is that different
> station altogether) and Eurostar (even post E* they might be entered
> separately). Manchester Piccadilly has two, as does London Bridge; any
> other offers for three or more?



I'd say London Bridge had three really, in that three lead only to/
from Cannon Street and three (plus the passing track) lead only to/
from Charing Cross/Blackfriars.

I think you could argue for Clapham Junction having five distinct sets

Platform 2, only for Silverlink via Olympia

Platforms 3 - 6, only to/from Putney

Platforms 7 - 11, only to/from the Wimbledon direction

Platforms 12 - 15, only to/from Victoria and to/from Balham etc

Platforms 16 and 17, only for between Olympia and the south


Also, platform 1 for ghost trains, but you could say that about
platform 8 at London Bridge as well.

On Jun 11, 6:06 pm, MIG <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:

> Also, platform 1 for ghost trains, but you could say that about
> platform 8 at London Bridge as well.



I mean 7.

In message <ld7r63l9m14h4g8rb02675p4mdefj8qs0i@>, at 20:12:53 on
Mon, 11 Jun 2007, asdf <invalid@invalid.invalid> remarked:
>>But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have to
>>do any special orientation to get from one to the other. Similarly for
>>the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm looking for is places
>>where the sets of platforms are completely disjoint. For example, KX
>>main shed and KX suburban just about qualify, but Paddington main and
>>suburban probably don't.
>
>At the northern end, KX platforms 8 (main) and 9 (suburban) are just
>opposite faces of the same platform island.

Yes, but the entrance to platforms 9-11 are in a different building to
the main shed. I agree it's borderline, but from the buffers of each set
of platforms you are unaware where the others are (if you were a
complete stranger).
--
Roland Perry

asdf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:26:14 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have
>> to do any special orientation to get from one to the other.
>> Similarly for the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm
>> looking for is places where the sets of platforms are completely
>> disjoint. For example, KX main shed and KX suburban just about
>> qualify, but Paddington main and suburban probably don't.
>
> At the northern end, KX platforms 8 (main) and 9 (suburban) are just
> opposite faces of the same platform island.

Only for about fifteen or twenty feet. There's a wall between the two for
most of the length beyond the trainshed.